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Hello all, I just got a new Savage.� It is (I believe) an H Serial # 215xxx in 22 HP.� Some wear, but overall decent shape.� I got the price from $850 down to $700. I probably overpaid a little but I like it and most HPs are much more $ in worse condition.� It has not been D/T and all numbers match.� My question is, is it normal for a screw to be in the hole where the cocking indicator should be?� The action locks up nice but I have never seen a screw there before.� Also the guy said it was made in 1917, but the savage website says 1920.� Any thoughts?� Thanks...
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is it normal for a screw to be in the hole where the cocking indicator should be? Uhh nope. I like the 1920 date more better'd
When it comes to choosing friends....I'm at an age where I'd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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Just got to dinking with it and I now know it is a pin with a slot. I accidentally pushed it down through the hole into the action. I had to take the buttstock off to find it again. I got to looking where the pin should be attached in the action and found no sign of one being broke off.
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Seems like you're happy with it, so congrats! Those 22HP's do bring a premium.
The pin probably got lost and they plugged the hole. Now the trick is to find new hardware to make the pin work right if that's what you want. Or just plug the hole again and take it shooting.
+1 to Jed.. 1920. And it's possibly a 99F rather than an 1899H. You're close to the timeframe where it was switching over.
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Thanks guys... I was just looking at my gun digest looking at prices and it says: 1899-H Featherweight in good condition $600 plus an additional 25% for 22 HP, so 600 + 150 = 750.
a 99-F Lightweight takedown rifle in good condition is $600 plus an additional 50% for 22 HP, so 600 + 300 = 900. Early 1899-Fs look similar to 1899-Hs.
Is their any way to differentiate the 2 models?
Regardless I am happy with it even if it was worthless. I have wanted a 22 HP for a while now.
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Is their any way to differentiate the 2 models?
No not in the serial # range that you have. The best thing to do is get rid of that rifle before it drives you insane trying to figure out exactly what it is . Mike
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Dog HUnter, That would be perfect to go shoot some of those De-listed Wolves down there in Yellowstone with!
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F's have steel butt plates and H's have rubber.
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ldorado, that was the predominate thinking (Loggah and others), but Rick said that a lot of things changed after WWI, and that there are no easy ways to differentiate between the 1899H and 99F from 200,000 to 220,000.
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I have 2070xx and I don't concern myself with whether it is a 1899H or 99F. As a matter of fact I suggest starting a movement to NOT try to designate these rifles by a model number/letter.Instead simply call them TRANSITION rifles , thus creating a new sub-species of 99 and making them more valuable. Mike
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I suggest starting a movement to NOT try to designate these rifles by a model number/letter.Instead simply call them TRANSITION rifles , thus creating a new sub-species of 99 and making them more valuable. Mike That sounds good to me. I really don't care what it is either, I was just wondering. It will be going on a few coyote hunts soon. The 22 HP might be a bit small for them bigger coyotes Daveo, but the rifle itself would be great for some of that thicker timber they hang out in.
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I love it! Them "Bigger Coyotes" have started to wander into Utah.
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