I dunno about hate, well yea I hate te 9mm, it has got to be the most useless so called "man-stopper" round ever made, and the 40s&W is a close second, maybe even more so, what wrong with a good old 45, im pretty sure they're track recond says enough, or the fact that something that old still out preforms most of these new plastic pieces(notice i said most) or even the 10mm for that mater, that is a great little round. as far as rifles go 7mm mags and 7mm-08 are alright, but i dont hunt alot of varmints so i really have no use for them, every one who has one thinks there huge, get a real gun. a 30-30 is on the list to, but you have to atleast give it the respect of an elder. how bout 6mm's i have a few barrels i got cheap but havent put them on anything, because i cant think of a caliber worth having, maybe a 6mm ppc, if i could feed it through an AR...hmmm...