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Rick -
It depends on the design of the barrel. Some aftermarket barrels are simply "match" grade versions of the original barrel, meanding they use cut rifling and maintain the same feed ramp angle. Some have a steeper feed ramp angle, which allows for more support of the case head. Unfortunately, I don't follow Glock accessories all that closely so I can't tell you which is which. I guess you could contact the manufacturer of the barrel and ask them.

It really kinda sucks because Glock has painted themselves into a non-reloading corner. For some that's just fine, but for most of us here at the campfire, we like our handloads.

Kevin, you stated that the heavier bullets in 10 mm penetrated too much. How much is too much?

On the postage scale, empty mag inserted it comes in right at 45oz (2 lb, 13 oz).

This is from Doubletap. I think the gun was a G20.

All of these tests were done using 10% ballistic gelatin provided by Vyse gelatin using all FBI protocols and 4 layers of denim and two layers of light cotton T-shirt in front of the gelatin.

DoubleTap 10mm
135gr JHP @ 1600fps - 11.0" / .70" frag nasty
155gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1475fps - 13.5" / .88"
165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 14.25" / 1.02"
165gr Golden Saber JHP @ 1425fps - 14.75" / .82"
180gr Golden Saber JHP @ 1330fps - 16.0" / .85"
180gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1300fps - 15.25" / .96"
200gr XTP @ 1250fps - 19.5" / .72"
230gr Equalizer @ 1040fps - 11.0" and 17.0" / .62" and .40"

The XTP is a much tougher bullet than the Gold Dot. DT calls it a "Controlled Expansion" round.

One of the interesting things I've picked up along the way is the difference in killing power between the .40 S&W and the 10mm.
JJHack has guided lots of pistol hunters to black bears in the PNW. He says the .40 just doesn't cut it in his book for blackies. The 10mm does.
What I find impressive about the 10mm is not only it's power, but it's power at the longer ranges. It shoots plenty flat and hits plenty hard way out there. Better than the .357 with heavy bullets but not up to the .41 Magnum. Pretty impressive from an 11 rd. pistol. Way better than either the .45 ACP or the 9mm. completely different animals. E

You ever try a 45 ACP with 230s at 1000 FPS or 265s at 900 FPS
or even a 185 at 1120FPS?

Try some those loads "E" and you might not think that the 45ACP is so amemic...

Yes. My comments concerned the long range, 200 yds. plus performance, not the up close, gun fighting ranges.
I've used and carried 1911 .45's for over 45 yrs. Killed game with them, and used them on the street. My "go to," "do anything" pistols are my 1911 .45's. 10mm's are not as good a pistol for lots of economical target shooting, for instance. They tear up small game too much. A mild wadcutter .45 ACP load works much better for things like that. E

Do a lot of 200 yard shooting with a 10mm do you?

Do you have any more info on loads that will do that? I had given some thought to a .460 Rowland..... but loads like that would be just fine for say 50 yard whitetails.

The Corbon and Tarus loads with the 185 grain Barnes XPB will get 1100 plus. The Buffalo Bore 230 grain Gold Dot will do 970 to 1000 FPS depending on the temp when Chronoing. The 230 grain Remington HP in the green and white box will also get 950 plus The 265 grain is a hard cast by BTB and is a relaod....

Thanks. Which do you think would make the best whitetail load.... I'd forgotten about the Barnes bullet... <sorry not meaning to hijack thread.... just frugal>

The Barnes. Eating lead is not frugal.

The medical cost only start to add up after your ingested lead level gets so high.... they say memory can be effected fairly early on.... what were we talking about???

You have a .460 don't you Rick?

I dunno....maybe...............460?

They are quite close in much of the testing that I have done, but I think that the Barnes has a slight edge in performance and that is what I am carring










The rounds tested were 185 grain DPX, Buffalo Bore 230 Gold Dot +P, Hornady 230 grain XTP +P, in 45 ACP
In 357 Mag the 145 grain Silver Tip and the 158 Gold Dot by Speer mwere tested
In the 41 Mag the 170 JHC load by Buffalo Bore. This load does 1550 FPS from a 4" barrel S&W Mountain Gun

The 230 grain XTP +P made it into the 3rd board, the DPX, the 230 B.B +P Gold Dot load in 45 ACP,and the 145 grain Silvertip in 357 Mag. made it into the 4th board and dented the 5th
The 170 grain JHC in 41 Mag made it into the 5th board and dented the 6th and the 158 grain Gold Dot in 357 Mag penetrated into the 6th board

I used to only hunt deer with pistols growing up in Western NY. No rifle hunting was allowed. I moved to NC in 1993 and have been trying to make up for lost rifle hunting time ever since. IIRC I have only shot two deer with revolvers in the past 15 years. One was with a long seated .44 mag 300 gr XTP from my Redhawk... the second with a 210 grain Barnes bullet from my Smith and Wesson classic. I had to crawl through some swamp to find the deer shot with the XTP the other deer was a dead right there deer. Not a big sample for sure, but I was still impressed with the performance of the Barnes pistol bullet.
This maybe the year for some more pistol hunting....

I agree the Barnes bullets offer excellent terminal performance in both rifle and handguns...

I'm jinks with Barnes rifle bullets, XXX version and all.... but I'm all for them in muzzleloaders and pistol....

Anyone try the EEA Witness or Dan Wesson in the 10mm?

I've handled both.

Can't stand the EAA (feels cheap.... NOT what I want in a handgun); the Dan Wesson is NIIIIIIIICCCCEEEEE!