if the shotguns made now for Savage,,m411,,are anything like the combination gun I bought is any indication,,,, they are great,,a bit OVER-BUILT,,robust to the extreme and DAMN ACCURATE!!! a little heavey in the trigger,,any good smith can remedy that,,,I would buy another at 2x the price,,,I love 'em. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />