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Subj: URGENT ALERT: **STOP** THE McVEIGH 'PATSY' EXECUTION! [PART 1] <BR>Date: 5/27/01 8:16:14 PM US Mountain Standard Time <BR>From: jackiepaptd.net (Jackie Patru) <BR>To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;; <P>Regardless what you 'know' about Tim McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing, unless you read Devvy Kidd's detailed report you do NOT have all the facts. <BR>This is WORTH the time it takes to read and forward. Oklahoma State Rep. Charles Key risked his all to forward the TRUTH about the CONTROLLED MEDIA AND U.S. GOVERNMENT LIES. He cared more about his fellow man and his country than his 'seat in the legislature'. A rare breed in today's climate. We owe him our deepest respect and gratitude. - Jackie - <BR>>----- Original Message ----- <BR>>From: CCW <BR>>To: CCW <BR>>Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 7:09 PM <BR>Subject: URGENT ALERT: **STOP** THE McVEIGH 'PATSY' EXECUTION! [PART 1] <P><BR>DO NOT LET THE DEATHS OF 168 INNOCENT PEOPLE AT OKLAHOMA CITY GO UNANSWERED. WRITE, CALL AND E-MAIL YOUR ELECTED PUBLIC OFFICIALS, INCLUDING PRESIDENT BUSH, ATTORNEY GENERAL ASHCROFT AND THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES TO **STOP** THE PLANNED EXECUTION OF TIMOTHY McVEIGH IN JUNE. <P>Devvy Kidd has just posted her latest piece on the OKC bombing at this Website: <P><A HREF="http://www.devvy.com/graham_20010526.html#meat" TARGET=_blank>http://www.devvy.com/graham_20010526.html#meat</A> <P>This one is great, with lots of links to VERY REVEALING materials at other sites, materials which many of you have never seen before. This will help understand what really happened at OKC... and it is NOT what the media moguls <BR>>or the FBI have told you. THEY ARE LYING! The TRUTH of what you will read at Devvy's website link above is something the government does NOT want you to learn. The government is guilty of obstruction of justice and violating the basic premise of due process of law. BILL CLINTON, JANET RENO, LOUIS FREEH, and their 'HENCHMEN' are all guilty of complicity in the SEDITIOUS, TREASONOUS, MURDER of 168 innocent Americans. <P>BTW, if any of you think McVeigh's execution was initially stopped just because of the FBI having 'found' documents that were ho-hum, never turned over to the defense, THINK again! The FBI and government complicity dictates that they are 'micro-managing' this entire event. And the media is only giving you 'sound-bytes'. <P>The REAL reason for halting McVeigh's 'planned' May execution date was a lawsuit filed by JANE GRAHAM, a 9th floor survivor of the Oklahoma City Murrah Building MULTIPLE EXPLOSIONS that occurred in the basement of the building where satchel type charges of possibly fulminated mercury or C-4 plastic explosive were attached to the columns themselves. As you will read in Jane Grahams sworn affidavit, she was a WITNESS to not only the pouring of <BR>wet concrete into the 24 or 25' craters in the basement of the building - AFTER the BOMBS went off, but was also a WITNESS to two individuals wearing GSA employee uniforms - who were NOT GSA employees - and whom she observed in <BR>the basement of the Murrah Federal Building at 8:15 AM - before the explosions - stringing wire. <P>Notice I stated 'BOMBS' as in more-than-one. You see, I TOO AM A WITNESS... I have an original copy of the seismic data that Dr. Charles Mankin at the University of Oklahoma at Norman, FAXed to me, shortly after the explosions occurred. The seismic recordings reveal at least TWO bombs, if not more, that went off within 10-seconds of one another on April 19, 1995. Nord Davis of Northpoint Teams and the entire Northpoint Team Members were supplied with <BR>copies of this same data... to make sure that the TRUTH could not be buried or destroyed. <P>PART 2 of this URGENT ALERT message will reveal that because of certain individuals who we know were involved, and the fact that the ATF offices were vacated the night before on Tuesday, April 18th, this bombing was the work of <BR>a COVERT GROUP inside the Federal Government, with the full knowledge of Clinton and Ms. Reno. We will show that 'Suspect #1', Timothy McVeigh, is a part of that team, employed as a government asset and made the rounds of <BR>patriot organizations. We allege that had he not been stopped by the Oklahoma State Police on a traffic violation of 'no license plate', he and his partner, 'John Doe #2' would have been, as we say in intelligence circles, <BR>'double cut-outs,' that is, killed as was Lee Harvey Oswald, to silence them. We believe that 'John Doe #2' is a man from Mena, Arkansas who goes by the name(s) of Brown or Boyd. The FBI knows the identity of this man and probably <BR>where he is, although he may have already been terminated with extreme prejudice to insure McVeigh's cooperation. The Oklahoma Highway Patrolman, we believe, was not in the 'loop'. He did his job not knowing that McVeigh was <BR>to get away. McVeigh had a concealed and loaded 9mm handgun. <P>We will also reveal that the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, was a deliberate inside job, and by the very same Group of traitors who planned and executed The Waco Massacre. Their purpose, with the help of CNN, was/is to formulate public opinion as totalitarian socialist Hitler did, for the passage of certain UNCONSTITUTIONAL firearms bills, such as HR-1488, which gives the BATF broad, expanded powers. Even more important <BR>to them was/is the passage of the Biden-Schumer 'anti-terrorist' bill, which was before Congress at the time of the explosions. In these conspirator's minds, the passage of these bills, and the disarming of American Citizens who <BR>know, at least in part, what's going on, is well worth the deaths of a mere 250 people. They think this way with the same AMORAL mind-set as they had when they murdered 80+ men, women and children at Waco. There was barely a whimper from the American people. They did so with the same reckless abandon as they had when they murdered 500,000 innocent men, women and children in northern Iraq in the City of Nineveh raids which were televised on Iraqi TV... and which Nord Davis witnessed first-hand while in Amman, Jordan in 1991. You did not know of this atrocity? That's because the five white guys on the stupid-tube never bothered to tell you. <P>As Nord Davis of Northpoint Teams stated on April 22, 1995: 'The Northpoint Teams fully understand that the intelligence contained in our first Oklahoma City report is far different than the intensive propaganda that you have <BR>watched on Hanoi Jane Fonda's husband's network: CNN. As Hitler once stated, 'If the LIE is LARGE ENOUGH, everyone will believe it.'' AMERICA... This is YOUR WAKE-UP CALL! No matter what you see on CNN or from <BR>the other talking-heads, KNOW THIS: Your LIBERTY and JUSTICE are at stake if they get away with executing Timothy McVeigh. <P><BR>/s/ John R. Prukop, Exec. Dir. <BR>Legal Researcher <P>CCW Coalition <BR>Citizens For A Constitutional Washington <BR>11910-C Meridian Ave. E., #142 <BR>Puyallup, Washington 98373 <BR>ccwwolfenet.com <P> <P><P>------------------<BR>Lest not we forget, America is a Republic, NOT a democracy. Learn the difference, spread your knowledge, help end the lie. Fear a government that fears your guns.

Yes, and it should have been done already.

Thank you very much for that interesting speech, if I may call it that. I liked it well. <BR> I hope you don't mind, but I copied it and pasted it on another forum, giving credit where credit was due (to you, of course). I felt that others should be entitled to read it as well.

finally the truth comes out I knew all along that that slime bucket clinton and that equally slime bucket reno were behind the bombing. at least i am not alone on this issue thanks alot RAM for this very insightful post i appreciate it.

Much like The Book of Revelations, The more you learn, the more questions you're left with unanswered. Thanks for the info RAM.

Something stinks .... no doubt about it. Trouble is, there are so many sources of stink in Washington. The prospect of trying to uncover the truth here is akin to the challenge faced by a dope-sniffing dog trying to locate a joint in a field of marijuana.

I ain't about to buy into this BS story. Any damn fool could look at that building and tell where the explosion came from. Just another halfwit pulling your chain.

JayH, apparently you didn't read the link. You should before you judge how much BS a story contains. <BR> Or are you going to accept what they spoon fed you on the mainstream TV news?

I hate to stand on the same side of a line with JayH, but when he's right he's right. Anyone who knows sicem from sooey can see that the explosion was external and the stuff strewn in the street, which your guy is claiming as some kind of proof is simply where the upper floors collapsed and had to go somewhere. Did you expect them to vaporize? This is more conspiracy BS that people seem to love to listen to. Let me ask you, does anyone have one semi-credible theory why anyone besides McVeigh and cohorts would want to kill all those people? Not that I have heard, and I heard all that stuff about a "sting" gone bad on day 2. And no one investigates it, including the locals who lost loved ones. Give me a break.

I'm also thinking theres some BS arownd this, but the way the legal sistem works they have to go threw every litle unlikely posibility. A internal explotion would problay look vary differnt than that, but if it was nere the truck bomb then it would look similer. It is vary likly compleatly BS but needs to be looked at by the justice sistem

If anyone but McVeigh and Nichols were involved, at least McVeigh would be chattering like a squirrel with his nuts in a vise, telling about who it was, to save his own ass. The above is so much bulls--t it escapes me how anyone could be dumb enough to believe any of it. The author is either screwing with your head, half nuts himself,or both.

What was I thinking?! The FBI or BATF less than honest and honorable?? Crazy talk! Our own government trying to hide something from us? Balderdash!! I do agree, though, that if McVeigh knew anything that might save him, he'd be squishin' squirrels in a vise .... or whatever. I'm just saying that something stinks to beat hell. There are matters of significance here that will just ... go up in smoke. S.O.P. I'm not at all into "conspiracy theories", I just can't believe that when it comes to critical documentation, time after time we hear the same thing ... "The dog ate my homework". I just wish, for once, I could feel like I knew the whole story, and that justice has been served. It would be, well ..... Miller Time!!!!

He should be executed.Perfect justice-which we all should fear-will come with Christ's return.Until then,it comes in increments.Killing him is the first increment.<P>If one believes the government or other entities were involved,McViegh's prescence,alive and sticking to his story that he acted alone,is the biggest asset they have.<P>Expect this to follow the same path as the Kennedy assasination.Before long we will have a House Commitee investigating,etc.,etc.<P>The most believable scenario to me -if anyone is interested- is that another terrorist group was monitoring Mc viegh and joined in without his knowledge.Certain agents in the government agencies may have suspected it was coming down and ignored it for whatever reason.Then the Government chooses to protect us from the truth.<P>Kill him and we have taken the first slow step toward serving justice and will make it possible to start finding out the whole truth.A coverup is a process of reaction.A bunch of different groups putting forth different theories-some of them pretty wild-sort of cancel one and other out,and make the cover-up easier.<P>The government has always had the last trump,Mcviegh,and the sooner it is played,the sooner we can shuffle and deal new hands.Maybe we get better cards this time.<BR>