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To all hunters and gun owners:<BR> Would you be willing to demonstrate in<BR>Washington,DC,to protect your rights? Do you<BR>know what would happen if,"most," of the<BR>hunters and or gun owners in the United States showed up in Washinton DC,just before<BR>an election? Any comments would help? Lets<BR>put the politicans on the spot.<P> GOOD HUNTING<BR> GEORGE

Yes. If I thought the situation callede for it I would. kThe Million Idiot moms, The naacp can all take their cause there Why the hell cant the gun owners. kBut I feel if we did it should be a demonstration of unity wihtout any riots or violence. Just a whole hell of a lot of gun owners showing suport for the cause.

Why not? Mass numbers will really get the media to thinking. That would also grab any politician's attention. HA! Al Gore actually thought his anti-gun position would help his election, but he actually found himself having to back down and say that he won't take the law-abiding citizens guns. Not that it matters as he was lying anyhow.<BR> I just hate the media though. At the million moms march they were standing for a good cause, but if we do that it would be a bunch of extremists disturbing the peace. Let's do it anyway. [img]images/icons/laugh.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/laugh.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/laugh.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/laugh.gif" border="0[/img]

Well, who are the major players that would help pull it off? Maybe July 4th, 2002 or 2003? Might conflict with DC 4th celebration or maybe we just take that over? Or maybe a date where alot people would not have a vacation conflict? Maybe we could form a coalition of pro-gun groups into a 501C3 or get the National Shooting Sports Foundation to take it on certainly with the help of all like groups. I like it! How do we start? <P>Oh yeah, we definitely WILL NOT call it the MILLION anything! No expectations, no counting, just a hell of alot of people making noise for their gun rights.

jackfish,<BR> Sounds good to me.It would be very<BR>nice if the people here would join in this.<BR>Other organizations do it.So why don't we?<P> GOOD HUNTING<BR> GEORGE

I was hoping to get a "million signatures" on my petition and have people here on the campfire help me drop the load of papers off in Washington. But count me in on this. I have tickets and WILL travel. I also offered tickets to those who wanted to go....<P><BR>GB - when you have time give me your idea of what my intro should read. You were not around this fire when I first started this endeavor but I would appreciate your input.<P>Toons

Toons,<BR> I'll do my best but could you e-mail me<BR>part of the information so that I could take a look at it? I'm getting stretched to the<BR>limit with everything that I need to do but,I<BR>will always put aside time for something else.To other members here.How about you?I'm<BR>now putting in 6-7 days a week and 10-12 hours a day or more.Is there others out there<BR>that wish to help out to defeat the anti's?<P> GOOD HUNTING<BR> GEORGE

OK, good idea, as far as it goes. If I can possibly make it, I'll be there.<P>But noone notices these demonstrations unless the media covers it, and our media has long since sold out to the other side. I wouldn't expect much support from them, and God forbid something ugly happened.<P>Let me know when you guys get fed up and decide to MARCH IN and clean house. I'm starting to think that instead of defending the 2nd, we should start exercizing it!<BR>7mmbuster

Well, FOX News would cover it! For the rest you would have to make it news. A very calculated media strategy would have to be devised. You have the radio waves dominated by conservative hosts like Michael Reagan, Mike Gallagher, Rush, etc. to promote it.

Jackfish I like your style. George, I think it could be pulled off. One thing a person wouldnt want to do is have alot of media coverage and only 1000 gunowners out of 80 million show up. That would look really bad. I know from the work I have done, in all reality, that 90 percent of the people will say "YES I WILL BE THERE, I will help" and ya think biy this is great. ANd at the end of the day only about 1 percent of the 90 percent actually do anything about it. I am not trying to put a damper on this fire , I am just being realistic, and going by what I have seen others do in the past and what I have seen happen personally in the past. Even the Million Mom March didnt have a million moms there and they did comment on it, the news media did. An effort like this with 5 million or even one million people that you could count on to show up would definately raise some eyebrows. I think the NRA would be a good one to consult on the matter. They have the recourses to get the word out and have the most members of any group I know of in the country. Just my take on the subject. bcat

I agree with bcat. A great way to get the word out would be the NRA. You probably should contact them next.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jackfish:<BR><STRONG>Well, who are the major players that would help pull it off? Maybe July 4th, 2002 or 2003? Might conflict with DC 4th celebration or maybe we just take that over? Or maybe a date where alot people would not have a vacation conflict? Maybe we could form a coalition of pro-gun groups into a 501C3 or get the National Shooting Sports Foundation to take it on certainly with the help of all like groups. I like it! How do we start? <P>Oh yeah, we definitely WILL NOT call it the MILLION anything! No expectations, no counting, just a hell of alot of people making noise for their gun rights.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hi Jackfish...<P>How do we start? Good question... I'll start the answer by saying that we should get a "hell of alot of people making noise" for *all* of our rights!<P>Here goes...<P>First off, please know that this is not one of those mass posted solicitations or a spammed piece of junk. This message is a sincere call to awareness for anyone who desires to speak out (and be heard) by the liberal media and the pandering politicians buying into the radical politics of the animal rights industry.<P>Fellow outdoors enthusiasts, I am new here as a result of someone posting a link to your "camp site" from one of those "animal rights/anti-hunting" advocates message boards on the Net. In addition, to whoever posted the address, I kindly thank you. <P>While we're sitting around the campfire here, you should know that I am a plain spoken person and the more you get to know me, the more you'll know how dedicated I am at bringing sanity back into the realm of our sacred constitution, animal welfare and our rights. 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We need to show our various organizations that we can work together and support each other for the common good. Nobody is excluded, groups not represented in ACTION now will have the same rights as those who have been here all along. We are an all-volunteer group for Unity, nothing more, nothing less. <P>At your service, the action Committee.... <BR>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

I have some basic questions and I know no one will like to here them, but it would be better brought out now than later. Now you can plan--later would be too late.<P>Do you trust your government or some other whacko organization that they would not put some nut out there while the demonstration is taking place, to fire off a few rounds at the White House? And what kind of light would the media paint the demonstration in then? Would they focus on your cause, or the nut with a gun claiming to be with you??? Something like that could very well damage the very thing you want to achieve--Wallace [img]images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0[/img]

bcat, i don't think that the millon mom mach achaly had 1,000,000 more like 100,000 people. That name was made to make people think that there were alot of suporters when there wernt.<BR>To make something like this work well we would have to staret planing soon even if it will be neer the next election. A organizer or small team would be nesesary to make signicher sheets and to get them out to people so they could have them filled and sent them back to this person. We would have to get a permit in D.C. to have a protest. many people would have to spred the word of this so people come. One majore problem is most all of us have a vary far trip to DC so we would have to be extremly serous about this to pull it off. <BR>If the NRA could do some of the orginizing for us and or put something telling people to come to this in there magazens that this could be done and done well. <P>If i could get to it and i probily could take a bus then i would be happy to join.

Please see what I wrote under 7mmbuster's topic "A Better Idea"--Wallace [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img]