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#8038487 - 09/03/13 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: Hondo64d]  
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The numbers listed under charge are from the micrometer settings on my MVA powder measure. The 1.225 is about 45.7gr TAC. OAL includes a Sinclair "hex Nut" bullet comparator. The grid is .1 mil100m. These are 5 shot groups. I think I'm done with load development for this season.

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#8038802 - 09/03/13 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: mathman]  
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Originally Posted by mathman
39.5 of 3031 is extremely accurate with a couple of 168 gr. match type bullets in FC and LC brass. This is in five of five rifles tried.


Up to nine of nine now.

If you've been shooting Federal 168 gr. match ammo and you still have that heavy brass, you owe it to yourself to try 39 or 39.5 gr. of IMR3031 under a 168 in it.

#8041574 - 09/04/13 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: mathman]  
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I have just started playing with Power Pro 2000-MR and so far I am impressed. 1/2 grain under max with 150SST's and I am getting 2925fps with good solid sub-MOA out of my Browning X-Bolt.

I will be shooting a long range hunting match with that load in a couple of weeks, looking forward to seeing how consistent it is over 50 rounds.

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#8050048 - 09/07/13 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: Magnum_Man]  
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44.8 to 45.0 H4895 and the 150 TTSX has shot many one holers in three different .308 rifles. Velocity averages about 2830 from 21" barrel. Killed a bull with that load a couple years back.

#8276248 - 11/21/13 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: mathman]  
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Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by mathman
39.5 of 3031 is extremely accurate with a couple of 168 gr. match type bullets in FC and LC brass. This is in five of five rifles tried.


Up to nine of nine now.

If you've been shooting Federal 168 gr. match ammo and you still have that heavy brass, you owe it to yourself to try 39 or 39.5 gr. of IMR3031 under a 168 in it.


I'm getting ready to try this in some Lapua brass which, if I'm not mistaken, should yield similar results to the fed brass. well ... similar from the standpoint of volume/brass thickness. I expect the lapua brass to last longer.

although to be fair, the federal brass has held up pretty well so far. I'm not pushing it to the gills, though


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#8279169 - 11/22/13 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: n8dawg6]  
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Yeah I have been really temped to try it as well. What is 3031 like through a powder dropper? 39gr is the starting load on hodgdon site, I am guessing 24xxfps in a 22"?


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#8279184 - 11/22/13 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: Ruger280]  
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3031 is a "Lincoln Log" powder, so it's crunchy through a measure. Nevertheless, it produces very good groups for me even with thrown charges.

Hodgdon used WW brass in their tests, so 39.5 grains in a thick FC case is a bit warmer than Hodgdon's data would indicate. It's still an easy going load though.

#8279237 - 11/22/13 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: mathman]  
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Mathman do the group sizes fall off dramatically as the charge goes up with 3031?


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#8279265 - 11/22/13 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: Ruger280]  
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I never pushed it.

A while back I came into a quantity of LC match brass, and doing a little research I found the 39.5 gr. 3031 and 168 load was an old classic match combination. I tried it and it shot so well I pretty much quit experimenting.

#8475687 - 01/16/14 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: mathman]  
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Been playing with the 175gr VLDs. This one shows much promise. 5 shots. OAL includes Sinclair bullet comparator. For distance to ogive, subtract 1".

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#8489051 - 01/19/14 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: Hondo64d]  
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I use Varget in my .308 loads. I have not had any trouble finding it the last few months and I have plenty on hand.

44.5 gr Varget (Not the fastest, but most accurate)
150 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip
Rem Brass
Fed 210 Primer
C.O.L.- 2.80

My hunting rifle in .308 is a sporterized Mauser 98 in a Butler Creek stock and Leupold 3x9 Vari X II. It will put 3 rds in .60" all day long at 100 yds

#8544009 - 02/03/14 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: Hondo64d]  
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A couple of more good ones. These are 10 shot groups, shot from a 24" Brux barrel.

168gr Berger Classic Hunter
45.5gr Varget
CCI200
Lapua Brass
Base-to-ogive: 2.105"
Average Velocity: 2779fps

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155gr Scenar
46gr TAC
CCI200
Lapua Brass
Base-to-ogive: 2.105"
Average Velocity: 2886fps

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#8544864 - 02/03/14 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: Hondo64d]  
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Thanks Hondo. I just acquired a 308 win 20" barrel. I just did an ocw test and found 45.4grs is ocw with 168 smk, lapua brass, cci-br2 primers. COAL is 2.850" and .070" off the lands.

I plan to test out some 155's scenars soon. Thanks for sharing

#8558133 - 02/07/14 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: SAKO75]  
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Originally Posted by SAKO75
Lapua Brass
46gr Varget
165 Nosler Ballistic TIp
CCI BR2 Primer
always shoots sub MOA (.5-.75) and if I was a good shot , it'd shoot like this probably alot more often

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That's the one! 46 gr Varget with the 165 gr bullet of your choice. I had a 20" youth model Rem. 700 and was able to get 2680-2700 fps with sub MOA groups at 100 yds. I was happy duplicating the ballistics of most 165 gr factory rounds with that accuracy. The bullets I used were either Hornady regular Interlocks or SST's.

#8558339 - 02/07/14 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: cra1948]  
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Originally Posted by cra1948
This is the dumbest thread I've seen yet. Is there a bad .308 load? We might better have a thread entitled ".308 loads to stay away from."

That would be a very short thread.

#8591081 - 02/17/14 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: 308ragincajun]  
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I ran some 190 grain LR Accubonds in my new to me .308 MR with 22" tube this weekend. All loads were at 2.835" to fit the mag. Ran 10 shot ladders with 0.5 grain increments at 300 yards to look for nodes as well as pressure/velocity. I wanted to get to 2,600. I can say that with a 6.5 pound rig all up shooting max 190 grain loads, recoil does get your attention after a bit...grin...

RL-17 - topped out at 2,550 or so. Accuracy was bad, all over map.

RL - 15 -topped out at about the same velocity as RL-17. Accuracy was better. Didn't get to the high node, low node was at 2,450 to 2,500, too slow.

Big Game - topped out at 2,575 or so. Accuracy was so, so. Likely will not pursue further.

TAC - topped out at 2,625 or so when bolt lift started getting a bit heavier. Accuracy was great. Hit high nodes between 2,575 and 2,625. 4 shot group with a 1.5 powder charge range (range may be higher but hit pressure) went into a bit over 3 inches at 300 yards. I am going to play with charges and seating depths but I think there is a good load in here in the 2,600 range -

PS - I can provide charges if anyone interested.


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#8591348 - 02/17/14 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: GregW]  
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I've been loading the other direction with 168 grain Nosler match bullets over IMR 3031 and 4064. Basically I'm going for approximate 300 Savage ballistics with good precision.

Yesterday my five shot, 200 yard groups were .42, .57, .64, and .68 MOA. Not too bad considering the route I took. I just used Nosler's accuracy loads for 300 Savage and put them up in some heavy Federal 308 brass. grin

#8591392 - 02/17/14 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: mathman]  
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That's it? grin...

My post maybe isn't specifically for "good .308 loads" but I thought maybe .308 connoisseurs may like some real world feedback on some potential "good .308 loads" with some interesting velocity/powder combos....grin...


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#8591415 - 02/17/14 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: mathman]  
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Originally Posted by mathman
I've been loading the other direction with 168 grain Nosler match bullets over IMR 3031 and 4064. Basically I'm going for approximate 300 Savage ballistics with good precision.

Yesterday my five shot, 200 yard groups were .42, .57, .64, and .68 MOA. Not too bad considering the route I took. I just used Nosler's accuracy loads for 300 Savage and put them up in some heavy Federal 308 brass. grin


how many reloads are you getting out of the federal brass? mine seems to be holding up fine, and it makes really nice target loads with the Sierra 168's, but .... I've heard bad stories about its longevity ...


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#8591504 - 02/17/14 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: n8dawg6]  
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I used to complain about s-o-f-t FC brass too. But over the last two or three years it has been very good stuff. Full power loads with 175 SMK bullets don't seem to open up the pockets.

#8598529 - 02/19/14 Re: Good .308 Loads [Re: Hondo64d]  
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165NBT 47gr RL17 oal 2.82 cci250 3 shot group .160.

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