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Want to eliminate flyers from your groups? It's easy! This spins all your bullets BEFORE you load them so you can see if they are round. Walt Berger uses one, so does D'Arcy Echols, Kenny Jarrett. Swift Bullets, Nosler, Hornady, and Kreiger to name a few.



Our own John Barness says in "Factors in Accuracy II" on the 24 Hour website:

"Such results are admittedly unusual, and almost solely due to the most important factor in accurate handloads: the bullet. The Ballistic Tips had all been run over one of Verne Juenke's Internal Concentricity Comparators. About 1 in 5 tested perfectly enough for my experiment; 5-shot groups fired randomly selected bullets from the same box average between .5" and .75" with the same load. But "perfect" Ballistic Tips shoot better than any other bullet I've tried in this rifle, even benchrest bullets that have also been run through the Juenke machine. I cannot emphasize how much this machine has changed the way many shooters look at accuracy. Before using the Juenke machine extensively, I believed that certain rifles "liked" certain bullets better. Like most shooters, I'd try different powders in order to get a desired bullet to shoot better--and sometimes even a different primer. This didn't work very often. Now I know why. Without good bullets, uniform neck thickness and consistent ignition all the rest of it doesn't amount to a pile of popcorn.

Today finding an accurate load is much simpler. I carefully resize some neck-sorted, fired cases, charge 'em with an appropriate powder or two, then seat some Juenked bullets and go to the range. If the rifle's set up correctly, almost every load shoots acceptably."



WHY YOU NEED THIS:

What the I.C.C. unit can do for an accuracy minded shooter:

When bench-rest shooting became popular after WW ll, top shooters started testing various makes of bullets to see what was really required to be competitive in the sport. In the .22 and 6mm diameter range, it was decided that a maximum of .0003� in bullet jacket concentricity was the limit in order to shoot competitive small groups in a good bench-rest quality rifle by an experienced shooter. On the I.C.C. unit, .0003� is equal to about 15 deviation units on the meter scale as the bullet rotates. I have tested thousands of top grade custom bench-rest bullets.

The following is average data based on the average lot of bullet jackets that the custom bullet makers can buy. 80 % of the finished bullets will run 5 or less deviation units (Hummer bullets). 15% will run 5 to 10 D.U. (still good bullets). 5% could run 10 to 15 D.U. (average bullets). Anything over 15 D.U. should be used for fire forming, fouling shots, pressure testing, and chronographing. There may not be many of these, but they could cause those small fliers that we all shoot once in a while. Don�t shoot these on match day. Give them to your worst friend!

I want to seriously make a statement that no serious shooter can doubt. The better a shooter can shoot, the more valuable the I.C.C. unit becomes. At 100 or 200 yds., these people can shoot groups that average less than .250�. They do everything right. They have top quality rifles and hand-loads tuned to their rifles. They can judge wind conditions and have good rests and can hold consistently. Even a slightly bad balanced bullet can cause a .250� group to go to a .3�. This could cause a shooter to go to 5 or 10th place in the match. At 600 or 1000 yds., this can be much worse. A lot of shooters test bullet quality by shooting groups. If these groups are good, they have only tested the bullets that they have fired. A bad bullet can come along at any time and really ruin their day at a match. I guarantee my unit will tell a bad bullet from a good one. You should test every bullet that you shoot, then if you get a flier, you can look elsewhere for the cause.

I once tested 1000 custom bullets for a shooter in California. Not one bullet in the 1000 went over 4 D.U.! That bullet maker got a really good lot of jackets on that order.

Vern S. Juenke




Read more about it here:
Vern's Website

$750 Shipped

Paid two bits to see a "man eatin chicken" many years ago..... You know the rest :-)

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I'm confuddled here.

They work. Many 1000 yard Benchrest shooters have been using them for years. They are not magic, but one important part of the whole equation. Long range BR shooters sort their bullets with the Juenke machine, sort by length based on ogive to boattail, and many now re-point the bullets and unform the meplat. These are serious shooters, not plinkers or people loading hunting ammo.
Having said that, I don't know any 100/200 yard BR shooters that use them.

I was too, until I paid my two bits walked into the sideshow, saw the portly fellow sitting in a chair dining on a bucket of Kentucky Fried :-)

I think he's trying to say that this is a pile of horse hockey, a snake oil salesman at work. Too bad he's wrong. Believe it or not, that's actually a pretty good price for this spinning wonder.
Selmer

Yeah, I know what he's trying to say. Why people post comments like this on someone else's post for an item for sale is beyond me. Remember your grandmother used to say - "if you've got nothing nice to say - don't say anything at all?" If you don't think it's a deal- don't buy it - simple?

Anyway, the Juneke machine flat out works - it spins unloaded bullets and checks uniformity that can lead to flyers. All my hunting rifles shoot 1/2" groups when I sort the bullets. All the bullet manufacturers listed on his website must have missed the chcken show too.

The Juenke IS the real deal. If I were still shooting 1K BR I'd definitely have one. For now, it must remain an item on my list..................

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I've never heard of it but then, I'm no 1K BR shooter.. Quite the machine though it seems..

The title alone is quite a mouthful to say..

Anyway, free bump for the seller..

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