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here's mine
she's a 300 WM savage 110FP with a choate stock. the scope I have on her is the new burris FF tac30 in a 4.5-14 power 30mm tube.
shooting 200 grain accubonds. Deadly.

Here is my dedicated long range hunting rigs� 270 Allen Mag And a .338 Allen Mag...

7mm Allen Mag on the left and 270 Allen Mag on the right.

338 Lapua 30" ABS barrel, Defensive Edge Brakes adds another 1 5/8 inches, Rem 700 action set up with a Seekins Detachable box magazine to accept a loaded cartridge length of 3.9 inches. At present a NXS 5.5X22X50 scope sits on top but, as soon as I get the rings a S&B 5X25X56 PMll will be sitting on top

They all look very nice.

wow, I feel under gunned..... back to the drawing board!

308 in HTG, 30-06 in A2


308 in A5, with 1120 yard target, shooting 208gr AMax


30-06 at play


15x25" target at 1025 yards


10-20 mph full-value wind at work, two hits out of 12 shots at 1025 yards. 210 Berger VLD at 2650 fps.

Looks like you have it going your way. Very nice.

very nice indeed. beautiful shooting iron too!

What is an "Allen Mag"? That is a new term to me.

IIRC cases based off the RUM brass. Kirby Allen is the smith, over at longrangehunting.com if I have it all right... I will be corrected if I"m wrong.

Jeff

Thanks Jeff, how much more does the Allen give you over the standard RUM?

Allen Precision Shooting


ALLEN MAGNUM, ALLEN XPRESS AND ALLEN TACTICAL WILDCATS


2007


Listed below are the current members of the Allen Precision family of wildcat chamberings. Included you will find the name of the wildcat chambering, parent case used for the wildcat, preferred bullet for each specific wildcat chambering and average performance from listed barrel lengths. Also listed is intended use and appropriate loading powders for each.


Allen Magnum Wildcats


.224 Allen Magnum
270 WSM parent case, fireformed to sharper shoulder angle and less body taper
80 gr. up to 100 gr. Ultra Low Drag(ULD) Rebated Boattail(RBBT), still in development at this time
3450 to 3550 fps in 27� barrel
Designed for long range coyote hunting with minimum pelt damage. Also intended for pronghorn hunting and lighter deer at moderate ranges(400 yards and less.
Appropriate loading powders: H-870, H-US869, AA8700 and WC872

257 Allen Magnum
338 Rem Ultra Magnum parent case, necked down to 257, fireformed to min body taper and sharper shoulder angle.
100 gr.(4100 fps)up to 156 gr. ULD RBBT(.820 bc) 3350 fps in 30� barrel length
Design purpose for long range pronghorn and deer hunting. Out to 800 yards on heavy deer, 1000+ on pronghorns. Also makes a very effective long to extreme range coyote rifle but a bit hard on pelts
Appropriate powders: H-870, H-US869, AA8700 and WC872

6.5mm Allen Magnum
338 Rem Ultra Magnum parent case, necked down to 6.5mm, fireformed to min body taper and sharper shoulder angle.
168 gr ULD RBBT (still in development)
142 gr. SMK or ULD RBBT at 3450 fps with 142 gr. in 27� barrel, 3550 fps in 30� barrel lengths.
Same design purpose as 257 Allen Magnum but designed for those that prefer the larger selection of 6.5mm bullets.
Appropriate powders: same as 257 Allen Magnum

270 Allen Magnum
300 Rem Ultra Magnum parent case, necked to 270 and fireformed to min body taper and sharper shoulder angle.
130 gr.(3800 fps) up to 169.5 gr ULD RBBT(.740 bc) 3300 fps in 27� barrel length, 3400 fps in 30� barrel length
Designed for game up to 500 lbs at long range, deer and pronghorn out to any range a shooter can place the bullet in the vital zone of his target.
Appropriate powders: H-870, H-US869, AA8700 and WC872


277 Allen Magnum
338 Lapua Magnum parent case, necked down to 270 and fireformed to min body taper and shoulder angle.
140 gr.(3750 fps) up to 195 gr ULD RBBT(.920 bc) 3250 to 3300 fps from 28 to 30� barrel lengths
Designed for long range precision big game hunting. Usible on game up to and including elk and moose even out to 1000 yards.
Appropriate powders: H-US869, H-870, AA8700 and WC872

7mm Allen Magnum
338 Lapua Magnum parent case, necked down to 7mm and fireformed to min body taper and shoulder angle.
140 gr.(3800 fps) up to 200 gr. ULD RBBT(.900 bc) 3200 to 3350 fps from 26� to 30� barrel lengths
Designed for long range big game hunting up to and including elk and moose. Has been used effectively on elk out to 1300 yards and has also proven one of the most ballsitically potent rounds in use today including the 277 Allen Magnum and the 338 Allen Magnum. Has proven capable of � moa accurate out to 1000 yards and 1 moa accurate out to 2800 yards in good conditions.
Appropriate powders: H-Retumbo, H-50BMG, H-870, H-US869, AA8700 and WC872

338 Allen Magnum
408 Cheyenne Tactical parent case, necked down to 338, shoulder moved roughly 50 thou forward and fireformed to min body taper and sharper shoulder angle.
265 gr. AT RBBT(.920 bc) at 3500 fps in 32� barrel up to 350 gr. ULD RBBT at 3200 fps in 32� barrel.
Designed for heavy big game hunting at long range or standard big game hunting out to extreme range. Has been proven consistant and accurate out to 3008 yards by holding moa accurate out to this range and remaining super sonic in velocity with the 265 gr. AT RBBT.
Appropriate powders: H-50BMG(recommended), H-870, AA8700, US869, WC872, VV 20N29

375 Allen Magnum
408 Cheyenne Tactical parent case, necked down to 375, shoulder moved forward 50 thou and fireformed to min body taper and sharper shoulder angle.
300 gr.(3400 fps in 32� barrel, est.) to 350 gr. SMK at 3300 fps in 32� barrel(est.)
Designed for heavy game hunting or any application where extreme ballistic performance is wanted with a very large kenetic energy payload on impact.
Appropriate powders: H-Retumbo, RL-25, H-50BMG (est.) still in research and development stages at this point.

510 Allen Magnum
50 BMG parent case, fireformed to min body taper and sharper shoulder angle.
750 gr. A-Max or ULD RBBT at 2900 fps in 34� barrel length
Designed for heavy game hunting where legal and extreme range target shooting.
Appropriate powders: H-50BMG, WC872, H-US869, VV 20N29


Allen Xpress Wildcats


257 Allen Xpress
300 Dakota parent case, necked to 257 and fireformed to the Allen Magnum shoulder and body configuration.
100 gr. (3750 fps in 28� barrel) to 156 gr. ULD RBBT at 3050 fps in 27� barrel and 3125 fps in 30� barrel lengths.
Designed for conventional deer hunting out to 600-700 yards.
Appropriate powders: Ramshot Magnum, H-US869, H-870, AA8700 , WC872

6.5mm Allen Xpress
300 Dakota parent case, necked to 6.5mm and fireformed to Allen Magnum shoulder and body configuration.
100 gr. (3800 fps in 30� barrel) to 168 gr. ULD RBBT (still under development)
Designed for same use as 257 Allen Xpress but for those that prefer the 6.5mm bore diameter.
Appropriate powders: same as those for 257 Allen Xpress

270 Allen Xpress
300 Dakota parent case, necked to 270 and fireformed to Allen Magnum shoulder and body configuration.
130 gr. (3500 fps in 30�) to 169.5 gr. ULD RBBT at 3200 fps in 30� barrel
Designed for medium size big game out to � mile range.
Appropriate powders: H-1000, Rl-25, Retumbo, Ramshot Magnum

300 Allen Xpress
338 Lapua Magnum parent case, necked to 30 cal and fireformed to the Allen Magnum shoulder and body configuration.
180 gr. (3450 to 3550 fps in 27-30� barrel) to 265 gr. ULD RBBT(3000-3100 fps in 27-30� barrel)
Designed for medium to heavy game at long range, deer, elk and moose specifically
Appropriate powders: H-1000, Retumbo, Rl-25, US869

338 Allen Xpress
338 Lapua Magnum parent case, fireformed to Allen Magnum shoulder and body configuration.
200 gr. (3350 to 3450 fps in 27-30� barrels) to 300 gr. SMK or ULD RBBT (2850 to 2950 fps in 27-30� barrels)
Designed for heavy game out to long range.
Appropriate powders: H4831, Rl-22, Rl-25, H-1000, Ramshot Magnum, Retumbo

375 Allen Xpress
338 Lapua Magnum parent case, necked up to 375 and fireformed to Allen Magnum shoulder and body configuration.
260 gr. (3150 to 3250 fps in 27-30� barrels) 300 gr. (2900 to 3000 fps in 27-30� barrels)
Designed for heavy and dangerous game.
Appropriate powders: H-4350, H-4831, Rl-19, Rl-22


Allen Tactical Wildcats

458 Allen Tactical
408 Cheyenne Tactical parent case, Necked to 458 and fireformed to Allen Magnum shoulder and body configuration.
Bullets under development: 600 to 750 gr. ULD RBBT, estimated velocity 2550 to 2350 fps in 32� barrel.
Designed for heavy tactical use or Dangerous game hunting.
Appropriate powders: Still under research and development stanges
50 Allen Tactical
408 Cheyenne Tactical parent case, Necked up to 510 cal and fireformed to Allen Magnum shoulder and body configuration.
750 gr. ULD RBBT or A-Max(2450 fps in 32� barrel)
Designed for heavy tactical use for 50 BMG class performance but in much smaller and lighter tactical style rifles. Also usable for dangerous game hunting.

Thanks ss7mm, that pretty much clears up any gray!

My 700 built from the ground up by Greg Tannel. McMillan bedded the barreled action in their Lazzeroni stock. Krieger barrel chambered with a 300WM .337nk Lapua reamer. NightForce NSX 5.5x22x50. Vais brake. I broke my ankle followed by surgery two days prior to it arriving, unfired as of yet.


APS, Kirby Allen makes his own line of magnums from the RUM case. He can be found at LongrangeHunting.com forums.

That's me with my old match rifle - a .308 on a Model 70 action with a 30" Krieger. Good rifle, built by Jim Cloward.


My latest LR rifle - a nice .300 WSM Model 70 Coyote I picked up used last year. It's a good one! Hoping to use it for mule deer this year. Loads are looking good.


Old Faithful, dubbed "The Green Machine" I've been shooting this .308 for about 12 years now, and have worn out several barrels in that time. Likely my favorite all-around rifle. I've used it for varmint & coyote hunting as well as mule deer other game. Have also shot many matches with it, sometimes doing pretty well, other times failing to measure up to what the rifle can do.

Regards, Guy

This is my mini-me long range rig. Tikka T-3 stainless Varmint in .223 with a 6.5x20 MD Alaskan Guide scope. Black duracoat on all metal with coyote tan and black on the stock. Still relativly new, only about 200 rounds through it but it was going 1/2moa at 600 yesterday with the first load I made up for it, 75gr Amax over Varget. I grabbed the scope more as an evaluation but it was deadon with comeups and repeatability.

value that Cloward, there are not many around like Cloward!
Jeff

Jim Cloward is a very special gentleman who has made an indelible mark on long-range shooting. He richly deserves the respect oft accorded him.

Guy

Here's my 260 Improved..Savage s/shot action...Pac Nor 8 twist 'nutless' set up...26" x 1.230" no taper...4200 Tactical scope...Choate Varminter...around 19# dry...five shots in a dime @ 100 with Nosler 140 Comps and RE19...recent paint job looks better..

my 700p 300 rum and the varmit retreiver

SgtMajor -

Those rifles have the bolt on the port side? I thought the Marines and the Catholic Church were still pretty down on left handedness....

Stx
Having the scope that amount of extra high doesn't bother your head position in relation to the scope?
Jeff

338 RUM
Sort of an old pic, had the Broughton barrel replaced with a Krieger of the same contour.

Just a lowly 264 WM with a 28in Pac-Nor, 1:8 twist barrel for 142g SMK's.

Bend, that's a fine lookin' rifle!

Do you like the Kreiger barrel better or the same?

Remington M7 with a #1 Pac-Nor in 223AI



Howa, #2 Douglas 250AI



Factory Vanguard 257 Roy, McMillan stock

I normally pack one of these if I'm in big open country but their not specifically long range rifles.
Rm. 700, 7mag, Clasic stock, leupold 4.5x14LR with M-1's


Rem 700 in 300 RUM, threaded on brake, Sheperd P1-A

Both Broughton and Krieger are fine barrels IMO. The first Broughton went 1725 rounds but was set back at roughly 1200. Cant say it was worth having it set back. The second Broughton went 1150 rounds.
To choose? I would say Krieger as I have used them the most.

Forgot one

Any problem with that blued metal rusting?

I have zero problems with it rusting.

In the spirit of Steelhead's last pic...




Later that day, I screwed the pooch at a legit chance on a spike elk with that 45/70. Took the scope off in the thicket and shot high with the buckhorns... aagh.

Jeff. does that have the 18" BBl? I've been thinking of getting a 1895 with a 18" tube for a while. How the recoil and muzzel jump with the shotr tube?

I can like the shorter tubed 45/70's but I don't run them to the max. You don't need to push a 420gr cast bullet very fast to do a LOT of damage.

I do ring steel to 750 yards with the 30/30, albeit BIG pieces of steel.

Jamie, that is an 18" barrel. I was shooting 300-gn Partitions at about 2100 fps.

I don't know if it's the short barrel or the straight, low-comb stock or what but the recoil was really unpleasant when SCOPED. It would make things creak and crack in my head that I didn't know could creak, crack, and pop. That straight buttstock would really whack the side of my cheek/head.

It was an excellent rifle, very accurate, but I don't have it anymore. I'd buy one again if I was moving to grizzly country... maybe. I dunno, they are fugly but I do believe that my .325 WSM Browning BLR does everthing that 45/70 did, and then some.

And big-game hunting and buckhorn sights do NOT go together for me. A man has to know his limitations and that's one of mine. I put a peep sight on that 45/70 before I sold it (d'oh) and the Marlin I still have, a 44 mag lever, has a (ghost ring) peep too with a fiber optic front bead. I like that setup.

-jeff

Remington 700, .300 WM, Hart barrel, Zeiss 6.5-20x50

Wildlife management specialist tool .338 RUM

2 deer @ 598 yards with .308 Tikka T3 Varmint topped with a 6.5x20 MKIV Leupold. Very slow but very accurate load consisting of a 165 Sierra GameKing pushed by 44 grains W748 at around 2600FPS.

Savage .300 Win in an A5 Mcmillan topped with a 6.5x20 Leupold MKIV.

With 185 Scenars in neck turned and painstakingly prepared brass it averages .39 at 100 yards and .96 at 300 yards.

I have not had time to stretch this one out due to being out of the country working, but I fully intend to give it a thorough wringing out when I get home next month.

Edited to add, the pic is of the 300 yard target. You can see the initial group on the center left before I made windage corrections.

My son likes to hunt with levers. When I'm in the mood I'll reach out with a tang sight.

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Lately I've been using a little less precision.

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The workhorse, 300 RUM:



The plinker/light rifle, 7mm-08:



While not really a "long range" rifle this one and I go back even farther than the 300. I made my first "long range" kill with it well over 20 years ago. A cow elk at about 300 yds, the one and only elk we saw that entire trip. Doesn't seem very "long" these days, but before laser rangefinders and tacticool scopes made things so easy and 20 years of experience ago, that was a pretty long shot for me at the time.

Here is my bean field gun. Custom Encore in .264 Win Mag topped with a V-TAC. The forend is a VVG hanger bar floating rig. Farthes deer so far is 620 yards. A bunch over 400 yards though. Under right conditions I will try a 800 yard shot from the field and if resting accross my scouts hood on bags I will go 1000 yards on deer. Bullets out to 650 yards are the 120gr Ballistic tip. Past that the 130gr accubond or 140gr Berger vld. I am a crop sniper and use this rifle on the longer fields. reflex264

Remington 40x. 308, but gets the job done. The rifle has had some extensive mods since this photo was taken.

Here's my new custom .300 Win Mag from Patriot Arms.

Reflex

How accurate is that encore? I"ve not been impressed with that platform so far. ok accuracy but not what I'd expect from a good bolt gun.

Jeff

Something diferent,Pedersoli Quigley. 45-70
Doc

Hey Jeff. This one with over 2100 shots down the tube as of last week is still a 1/2" rifle but up to 1000 shots it was a 1/4" rifle. This is using 3 shot groups. It sure didn't start that way. To get it to this level was an act of congress to say the least. On the other hand I have 30-06 factory barrel that will shot about anything you stick in it into 3/4" or less and have one load that will shoot .30" . My experience with encores is you either have feast or famine. If they could build them more consistent they would have a real go getter. The barrel to frame fit is set up on jigs as go/no go. If you get a frame at one extreme and a barrel at the other you probalby aren't going to get it to shoot. On the other hand if you get a tight extreme on both pieces you have a tack driver. reflex264

Very interesting. I was not impressed with my MZ Encore at all, even after quite a bit of work, but then sometimes I expect too much.

Jeff

Reflex,
Is getting the TC up and running kind of like a Rug #1, ie lots of tweaking, praying and an occasional sacrifice? I still dream of a #1 in something big like a .338RUM but my hair is already gray and I dont need it to be falling out as well.

Todd

In order to get it to shoot I had to install a Bellm 1x pin,size the brass to fit the chamber (have to add .006" to sizing length), use the VVG hanger system and then find the bullets it liked. Was it worth it? Probably. I use this gun in situations where I need to be mobile and sometimes travel through brush. Even with its 26" barrel the action allows for a very short OAL. I might step out of a thicket into a beanfield with the deer over 500 yards out in the field. reflex264

Truthfully my number 1's all shot good from the get go. I have a gent that is going to bring me a 7mag he says he can't get to shoot. More than likely a little adjusting on the forend and a little load work and it will be a shooter to. I have a friend that bought a .204 #1 and it shot .25" 5 shot groups out of the box with factory ammo. No kidding. even my .416 Rigby #1 is accurate. I wouldn't be scared to start that project at all. The
#1 is a pretty solid platform without the clearence problems of the encore. reflex264

I've never seen so many left handed long range rifles in one forum. WOW. Nice stuff guys.

Twin 338 Edges I built for my brother and I

Good good stuff guys. My biggest problem with the Encore is the practice work. Every time you shoot you have to redo everything to shoot again. The #1 everything stays the same on the bags. To each his own certainly, but a number 1 or a good bolt action is so hard to beat for long range shooting because there is no room for error if you desire to hit what you shoot at. What amazes me is the Savage rifles out of the box. How does something so ugly shoot so good. I have seen model 12 after model 12 literally shoot 1 1/2 at 600 yards straight out of the box, and the real kicker is with factory ammo. Are you kidding me, how do they do that? Six inch groups at that range are common and I am not talking about one or two rifles, I have seen five all bought by friends do the same thing. Certainly conditions are perfect to shoot that well, but I have seen customs costing thousands more outshot by the Savages over and over.

This is my longest range rifle

Nice!

What's the bazooka on the tripod there? :-)

My guess is range finder.

Yep.

Maybe it is my eyes, but it looks like some serious elevation built into that mounting setup on that rifle.

I have a #1 in 338/378 that I'm about to work with....

That is a Wilde rangefinder and you can read about the gun here: Link--> MOAG on LRH

The MOAG is one wicked gun

Thanks ss7mm, I had forgotten about that write-up.(3years ago)
It is slightly different today, it has a 50 MOA base now and the barrel has been shortened from 36" to 33" to clean-up the throat.
B

Hey, once a MOAG, always a MOAG. Shortened barrel or not it's still thumping critters, steel etc. in the next zip code area.

built by Ray Romain, rem 700 LH 6.5 Gibbs, 29.5" 1/8 krieger, seekins 20 MOA base, burris ETR's filled with a 8.5x25 mark 4, M1, TMR all in a joel russo A5-L. farthest deer and only deer shot with the rifle is 781 yards


Mark Bansner smithed UR-1, remington 700 LH, chambered in 7mm STW, 26" 1/9 twist lilja #5, high tech specialties stock in jade/black, 6.5x20 loopy in loopy mounts. farthest deer taken to date 626 yards


Kirby Allen smithed rem 700 LH chambered in 7mm Allen Mag, 30" 1/9 lilja #8, holland brake, badger extr. and lug, set in a richards THLH varminter stock, seekins rings, ken farrel 20 MOA bases. Absolutely the easiest rifle to get to shoot very well I ever messed with. I shoot nosler 160 accubonds at 3575 fps, my farthest deer taken to date was 822 yards. as my abilities surpass 1K I will switch to the 200 gr wildcats pushed by a bucketfull of WC872 to around 3300 fps.

RR

We have a place in the Bridgers where we like to hunt elk. We have had some good fortune there, even if it is a small place. The property is mostly open and you have to catch the elk as they cross through early in the morning.

We shot 3 elk one morning and had them loaded in the truck and back to McDonald's for Egg McMuffins by 9:30. While we were waiting for our breakfast, several guys couldn't help but notice the truck full of elk which happened to be parked in full view of the lobby.

One of these gentlemen was bold enough to ask where we got the elk. I told him "in the Bridgers". He then asked "Where 'bouts?" I then, trying to be as gracious as I'm known to be, said "Near Flathead Pass". He pressed on.."public or private?" I figured when I told him it was private he would be satisfied we were'nt going to tell the exact spot.

No, that wasn't enough, he then asked what the guy's name was. I couldn't believe the breech of ethical standards here, and before I could squelch his curiosity, my hunting partner, Dave, methodically rubbed his chin as he looked into the distance and said " I think his name was Bob". Dumber than an Appalachian Hillbilly, he finally got it..."So you're not gonna tell us?"

This has nothing to do with long range shooting, but it is how our hunting spot became known as "Bob's Place".

This deer was shot on "Bob's Place" at 800 yards with a Weatherby 30-378 shooting a 200 grain Accubond bullet at 3300 FPS. The scope is a Schmidt & Bender 4-16X50 Varmint scope. Everything stock but the ammunition. The range was determined with a Swarovski rangefinder. No wind, nothing fancy, but this is an effective long range cartridge capable of taking game at extreme ranges.



I always like to tell the story of "Bob's Place" it makes just a photo and a bunch of bragging a bit more fun.

Cool story,but I have one question.

Bob Who?

Britt

I havent shot long with it yet but it would be what I used
Ed Brown DAMARA
7mm REM
#2 Shilen 24"
McM EDGE w/ decelerator
Jewell 2 pounds
Coated in GEN III by Ed Brown
Leupold VX-III 2.5-8x36

balances well, shoots very well
plan on removing the brake

mine is undergoing a facelift and I'll post a pic as soon as she gets back

My new .300 RUM

hey Josh how did it shoot after you got the brake installed?

Never shot it before I put the break on it... wouldn't want to with close to 100 grains of powder and a 240 grainer. The 210s are about like my buddies 270 WSM shooting the 140s. The break allowed me to see bullet impact at 600 yards... and allowed me to shot 37 rounds in two days. I don't think either of those would be a remote possibility sans break.

my stock came back today. I'm very happy!

Ya'll have such great rigs that I have hesitated to post mine here... but here it is. It's just a Sendero II SF in 300 Win Mag. I added a Limbsaver recoil pad (grrrr.... what a pain!), and a Jewell trigger, and I had to have a burr polished out of the chamber but it's stock otherwise.

It has a VX-II 6x18 AO Target on it. It's working well for me. My intent is to shoot this barrel up ASAP, then re-tube, probably in 300 WM again but who knows!

Here it is in action today. That crazy glove is my shooting glove. It has a piece of sheetmetal duct-taped onto the index finger to protect my finger from the bolt coming back. It really raises a knot on my finger otherwise.

I can shoot out to 800 yards at this spot... the cutbank on the far right, where the trees are cut in a line, is at just over 800. There's some rocks there to shoot at. I have not hiked a target over there yet.

I dig your set up Jeff and place to shoot looks like a lot of fun.

Yeah, you like that "old Levi's" pant leg sandbag <G>?

I'm just keepin' it real, yo... keepin' it real.

It is a great place to shoot. The really cool thing is, there's an informal (but nice) 100-yard range just 1/4 mile up the road, and then 1/4 past THAT is a gravel pit with about 150-yard sight lines.

So, the 100-yard spot is sheltered and shady and perfect for that kind of shooting; shooting for groups, load developement, etc. On a weekday there's never anyone there.

The 150-yard "pit" is a gas for letting loose with semi-auto's; jsut shooting rocks and so on... used to be great for running my Jeep too, but they dug it out to crush more gravel (for the roads up there) a couple years ago and ruined my trails and climbs and rock-crawling spots... in the winter there's a pond there and I throw chunks of wood out into it and shoot at 'em with my pistols. Fun.

And then I've got steel plates hung out to 600 yards in that canyon in the picture there. The only problem is, the wind is a complete mindphuck up there (pardon the language). I just about have to just shoot a couple shots to get a sense of what the vectors are all cancelling out to. It's way different every time. I have ribbons here and there, but what they show makes no sense to me most times, relative to where my sighters for the day are hitting!

Today, there was a significant breeze up where i was parked, but NO correction for wind was necessary. Yesterday, it was still up where I was shooting from, but I needed to correct about a foot at 600 yards...

It keeps me humble, and tells me that I am just a rookie at this and better not get cocky and shoot at an animal that's too far, that's for sure!

If you are ever down this way, SU35, I'll take you up there!

-jeff

that is a nice rig, I was going to go that route but just didn't have the cash, my 110FP does alright. still working on her

I didn't have the cash either (@!*&$ housing market!) so I had to sell off my other long-range-specific rig, a DPMS .308 LR... that thing rocked, but it was ergonomically SO different than a bolt rifle that I felt like the practice with it was almost a negative, in terms of training my body... muscle memory and so on.

That was this one:



and it surely did work!

Jeff, yeah I could go for that. Salem area?

Mine. [url=

Here is my new LR rig. Stiller TAC30 w/ .300" recoil lug and 20 MOA base. McMillan M40A1 EDGE in Tac-Black. HS bottom mag. Timney Ceramic'd trigger. 25" Krieger SS Match 1-8" twist #5 w/ ten flutes. Burris Steel Rings(temp) Leupold 4.5-14x40AO PR. All in the 6.5x47 Lapua. Out yesterday shooting out to 900yds at rocks. This little package makes it way to easy. Deer out to 700yds will be a cinch. 130 Bergers @ 2900fps will be the go to load. It weighs 9.5lbs as seen w/ bi-pod.




The target is this rifles breakin' rounds. Both 3 shot groups are under 0.35".

waiting for my scope to get back from burris
looks a little dfferent now than in the first post don't it?

Nice rifles! Here is my McM A4 stocked herd.
223AI & 7WSM

7mmRMs-

6mmREMs-

308 & 300WSM-

223 & 204-


All the kids together-

Dude....

Something to be said for knowing what you like!

Terry

7MMRM,

Obviously you like A4's. How's come? why not try out some other
configurations with any of all those rifles?

Whoops! Missed this.

No, I'm west of Eugene. That's about 45 minutes south of Salem.

I was up there today shooting. I'm at a decision point with my Sendero; pedal to the metal and try to get it (and me) in fighting trim for this season, or forget it and have it be next years project? The rifle is shooting great; it's just that I need to thoroughly wring it out with the 200 Accubonds out to XXX yards, or else there's really no point because I can already hit reliably out to 600 yards (on steel) with two other (normal)rifles... if I can't extend that reach with the Sendero in time to hunt this year, then it gains me nothing.

Probably just let it go till next year... though I did do some 850-yard shooting with it today. Got it all dialed in out to 600, then I have 800-850 figured out, but I need a whole other shooting spot to get 600-800 figured out. PITA.

Oh, I have tried them all... Thus the reason I have A4s on nearly all of my rifles- They fit me wonderfully. I like to keep things simple, by that when I go from rifle to rifle, I dont have to "get used" to the next one, for they are all set up the same. Works well for me!

I impressed.

I know this may not be a relative question as each rifle has a
niche to fit, but, and if I may ask..

Which one would be your go to rifle, load, and scope if you had a trophy deer hunt that required you to take one at up to a 1000 yards?

Shooting from one ridge to another with a sometimes 20 mph cross wind.

Appreciate the feedback, thanks!

edited to add, Also, what features on the A4's make you keep buying them as compared to others?

Learning here...