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Betcha can't beat this: I have a ~$300 Leupold 2.5x28mm IER Scout Scope on a ~$70 Mosin-Nagant M38.

I think you're right Don.

Yep, I think you're right and at that price point, count me out. Too rich for my blood. Besides, a VX-II will do everything I need done in the field.

I think that is part of Loopy's problem. The competitors are offering a lot of scope, for less money. I know I keep mentioning the Sightron Big Sky, but it is a lot of scope for $335. I know it is kind of an unknown brand, but once I tried it, I felt like the Loopy's were a ripoff.

There is a lot of guessing going on with only half the story told so far.

So here is my guess. I think that Leupold is lost without an answer to the Zeiss Conquest which currently eats their lunch performance and price wise.

Leupold will have to come up with a scope that has the glare control and definition of a Conquest otherwise they are just another old name.

I'm with you on the VX-II. It is a very fine scope, and I have two of them. Based on how good they are, I just can't get excited about buying a VX-III.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the 3.5-10x40 VX-III (I probably have 5 of them). That and the FX-III 6x42 are all my hunting rigs wear.

With that said, I don't think I've ever paid full retail for any of the 3.5-10s, and if the price goes up substantially, I can guarantee you I won't be buying a new one. Not when a VX-II 3-9x40 sells for under $300.

Personally, I prefer the VXIII to the VXII by a good bit (power ring, optics, aesthetics, options, 2.5-8X36 , etc.). If anything they replace the VXIII with moves up more than ~10% in price, I will be using alot more Conquests, etc., down the road. I have a couple of Conquest 3-9's, and I think they are slightly better optically but aesthetics and weight advantages go to the VXIII 3.5-10 (I have a couple of these as well) IMHO. If the prices start to spread even further though, I will be leaning hard in other directions as $500 is kinda my breakpoint - too many good scopes below that point to get very excited about anything above that point.

Ditto!

You guys have lost me. I've given up on keeping up with all the various Leupold numbers for their scopes. Here is what I want to see... scopes that DON'T have to have a coin to adjust. Weaver was doing that years ago with a simple dial. The very BEST glass that can be bought bar none. None of this 30mm tube crap. Keep the "forever" warranty. Stop saying "American" made since the glass is not from America. My guess is that I have about 15 to 20 Leupold scopes from 6.5 to 20 and all in between and even a couple of fixed 12x40's so I like the product. As many Leupolds as I have I can't remember all the numbers any more as I said before. Keep it simple Leupold!

GAWD .... and you guys bash E!!! .... Talk about the same old song over and over!!

George,

My take is that 99 hasn't ever looked through a Leupold VX-7, or anything better than a Conquest, let alone evaluated any of the BEST scopes compared the a Conquest. The VX-7 kicks ass, as do S&B's and Swaro's. Never looked thru a high end Zeiss, so no cmts about them.

Indeed its the Conquest thats eating Leupolds VX3 lunch in my view.

So high end aside as thats not the VX3 price range nor are high end scopes a big market. Leupold needs to find a product that performs like a Conquest or better.

I have looked through a S&B and its fabulous and I have two high end Zeiss scopes besides a Unertl 15X Ultra Varmint.

My take is that Leupold kept up grading the same old Vari-x design and they need to drop it and copy Zeiss.

The Conquest is heavier and has less eye relief. Might be OK for a guy like ole Savage who's rifles never see the field. Give me a Leupold any day.

Rick I respect and love ya by tha pound, but Leupold should get rid or discontinue the VXIII and VXL line ESPECIALLY the VXIII, reason? Is because they ain't worth a quarter.
I have a VXIII that is no clearer than my VariX-III and that is just a shame MAYBE I got a good VariX-III, but I have never seen a VXIII clearer, so hopefully Leupold will have a NEW line that will be worth buying as per the optics/glass because they aren't hitting on nothing with the VXIII... I take that back the warrenty is good...

Right back atcha Popapi!

I'm a big fan of the 2.5-8x36. I hope that whatever comes next has a scope in that class. I'd hate to lose the overall utility of that scope for some new bells an whistles.

rb

put the newest glass/coatings in (what was) the VX-III line ... offer either low-profile or "pop-up" capped turrets as standard fare ... and (whatever this means) update the internal mechanics to make them even more true/repeatable ... and offer ANY/ALL reticle options available from Leupold ...

do that, and you'll truly have the best hunting scope ever made, if you ask me ...

but then again, what the hell do I know ... (grin)

They will or should I say I hope so, being that so many people like the 2.5-8x36 I think they(Leupold) would shoot themselves in the feet if they didn't...

Not a bad idea WDubya...

Plus one.