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Can anyone post on the accuracy of the M700 VS, in particular the Stainless Fluted model, preferrebly in .223? My roommate has me looking for a yote/whistle pig rifle sometime in the not too distant future, but since I am left-handed it is rather difficult. He wants me to get a Sako or Tikka but they don't make a varmint model or even a short action for south paws that I am aware of. Also, could someone post on the real advantages/disadvantages of the .223 vs the .22-250...I was looking at the .223 cause we already have the dies and a healthy supply of 55 gr BalTips, but if the .22-250 is worth it. I am a little concerned the slow twist won't allow me to shoot the 50 and 55 gr bullets I prefer. Any comments welcomed.

A 1-14" will easily handle the bullets you mention(22-250 Remmy twist rate) and the 223's 1-12" is a nice cushion for some experimentation.

The VSSF is a damned great rifle IMHO,in either chambering.

For high volume fun,the 223 is impossible to beat. For flinging goo,on a less frequent level,the 22-250 is a very good choice.

There isn't a bad choice in the lot................

I have a vssf in 223 and had a vs in 22-250.......EITHER will have to have a TRIGGER job or replacement...the factory trigger will usually adjust but one I had wouldn't ....the stock is paticular about stock bolt torque being proper and even but after that is done !!!!! My 223 will shoot high .2 low .3 in. groups at 100yds from bags -prone and I did have the trigger replaced and after I saw how accurate it was I had the barrel and action Tri-Lax Cyro treated in hopes of getting longer barrel life? this is with precision handloads and good bullets......the 22-250 didn't do quite as well but I didn't spend much time with it in the VS as a trade came along that I wanted and they wanted the 22-250......no doube the 22-250 will shoot the 50-55grain bullets well and reach out greater distances than the 223 BUT it also is louder and eats more powder and thus usually less barrel life.......get a good mount and scope and a trigger job/replacement and a little load work up and I doubt you will be disappointed!!!! and as the other post states..either way you win...good luck and good shooting-loading!!

I have a VS LH in 22-250 (I don't believe the SSF model comes left handed) and 1/4 inch groups with 55gr V-Max bullets are commonplace. This round and bullet have proven to be great coyote medicine.



Chuck

Chuck,

What's your recipe for 1/4" groups with your 22-250?

I've got one I need to start load development with this spring. TIA...

CCI large rifle primer, remington cases, and enough Varget to get that bullet moving at around 3600fps.

Chuck

Makes 50's outta the 223AI at 3750fps,look even sweeter.................(grin)

Don't overlook this rifle...

http://www.savagearms.com/12blvss.htm

I can 100 percent guarantee you it'll outshoot anything else you're considering by a significant margin. The Savages have free floated button rifled barrels, pillar bedding, and great factory triggers. The new Accutrigger can be adjusted down to about 2 pounds yourself. And the Savage design is very condusive to good headspace from the factory. Lastly, the bolt design of the Savage engages equally on both lugs--something you rarely find in current Rems and Wins.

I'm shooting a 12FV Savage in 22-250, and getting an easy 3800 fps from 55's with 37.0 grains of Varget. (That's a half grain over Hodgdon's max, but there are no pressure signs whatsoever--not even the beginning of a flattening primer).

Super accurate rifle and load... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Dan

ooops... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

In my zeal to mention that you not overlook a Savage, I failed to take note of your screen name... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Never mind... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Dan

I am primarily considering the M700 because I know and trust it and have alot of experience with it, but that doesn't mean I am not open to suggestions. I may turn to the Savage simply because of its price, but I really would like the VS--just something about Savages I never liked...can't quite put my finger on it but I think it may be asthetics.

Bang for the buck,the 700 VLS is the one I'd buy(in 223)..............

I'm curious on how one can make a 100% gurantee over a rifle that is reported shooting 0.25" groups?

When buying factory rifles you face the luck of the draw.The savages may be more accurate on average than the remingtons(even this has not been proven) but one could get an above average remington or a below average savage.Therefore the idea of a 100% guarantee is total foolishness.

RemFan--
I 've had 2 VSSF's (one .23 and one .22-250), and 3 VS's (2 .308's and a .223) and only one of the 5 wasn't capable of groups on the .3's consistently.
The .22-250 had a chamber that wasn't cut concentric with the bore. I sent it back to Remington and got it back two weeks later saying it was within specs for a M700. Under 2" 3 shot groups at 100. Hell. I had gotten groups around .6"--but that wasn't good enough for me. Plus, the brass had .009" neck runout after firing.
Even after getting one lemon, I would still recommend the M700 over the Savage...(Yes, I've had Savages, too...They are just butt ugly and made CHEAP...Won't happen again)

Buy the remington. I too took the savage plunge. Rifle shot great with loads it liked. But it doesnt have the feel of the 700. And for me that just didnt cut the mustard. I wont make that mistake again. I just hope to find a few more deals like I found over the weekend. That way I can stock up on good custom rifles and not go broke doing it.

I am not a remington fan. So I really have no elegiance to that particular rifle. However, I'm drawing up a 22-250 right now that will suit my coyote hunting needs (read wants). I'm going to use the action on my VS as the basis for this rifle and if I had gone with the savage or even the tika route I'd be looking for a SA LH 700 about now. Cheaper isn't always more cost effective.

RemFan - The accuracy of 700's in general, and the "V" variants in particular, has always been excellent. Not to say that the one YOU buy will shoot great, but, odds are it will do just fine. Some trigger and bedding work will almost always turn one into a sub-1/2 MOA shooter.

I have two V's, a 223 VLS and 308 VSSF, and have worked some with a 22-250 VSSF. The 223 and 308 were "accurized" by Arnold Arms, and will do 0.200's - 0.300's when I'm up to it. The 22-250 has had some trigger work and that's about it, and while I'm still searching for the perfect load, it's done enough 5 shotters around 1/2" to keep me happy.

No doubt R-P's had some QC issues, as documented relentlessly on the forums, but, which mfr hasn't?

I'd grab one in a heartbeat and not worry about it.

R-WEST