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I need to know what you guys think for the Toyota. I know some of you like the Yodas and some don't but I do a lot of driving and I found one of these at the local GMC dealer. 2001 with 57K and all the bells and whistles. Do any of you have one or have any first hand knowledge of these. I have never owned one or driven one--the driving part will be changed tomarrow. What is a good price for a truck like this. KBB has is for about $19000 which sounds like a hell of a lot of money. Let me know what you think. Thanks, OKH

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I'd say thats a bit steep in regards to price. I know vehicle price varies by locale,but my Brother just bought one and he lives in SoCal. His is a 2003 version of the truck you're looking at,and he only paid 24K brand new.

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My wife and I own two, an '02 ExtraCab and a '03 DoubleCab. Oh, What a Feeling!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

You can't go wrong with a Toy, rugged and dependable....kinda like a Leupold! And they are made in the USA by American labor (well, kinda sorta <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />)

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I purchased mine new in '98. TRD extra cab. Have 85,500 miles on it with no problems (nock on wood). Never tuned up. Second set of tires. Just replaced the Bilsteins. Toyota warranty would'nt cover the blown seals. Believe I paid 24K. If I were you, I'd go with the Tundra if your lookin to put four people in the truck. Four adults in a Tacoma and your gonna feel the power loss.

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I really don't think that I will ever put 4 adults in it. My wife and I plan on having a kid before too long and the single cab GMC I am driving now just won't go that route. I am 6' and I could fit in the back pretty easy. Wouldn't want to ride in there a long time though. OKH

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OKH, I have a 2000 Tacoma extended cab with the trd package. I really like mine. I do wish now and then that I had gone with the tundra because of limits on towing with the tacoma. I have the V6 and it has lots of power in the mountians. Also it does better on the jeef trails than a full size or a tundra would. tom


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I have owned 15 Toyota Pickups and ALLLL have been absolute gems. Several have gone over 250,000 miles with NO major work and very little minor work. I run them hard and play off road A LOT! They are extremely dependable and really hold their resale value. They are easy to work on and when and if you do need parts, they aren't any more than other brands, often times MUCH less. I would offer the guy $17,000 for the double cab and negotiate from there.

The V6 motor has a lot of torque, especially for a small 6. You won't be wanting for power, even with a full load. I laugh when the American die hard truck owners try and compare the torque of a Toyota 6 cyl to a big V8. Of course the V8 is going to walk away, but the Toyota 6 will give the 8 a run for for it's money. I like the 4 cyl's better for mileage and clanking around the hills. The new 4 cyl's have GREAT torque and power. I love both of mine. I couldn't ask for a better product. Flinch


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Flinch, I pass V-8's all the time in the mountians unless I am towing my 5x10 trailer with a load in it. tom


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I took my wife to look at the truck last night and now she really wants me to get it. I have never seen her like that. She usually doesn't care one way or the other but on this one she really likes it. I think she wants to drive it:) OKH

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I found another about $17000 so I will try and hold that over the dealers head tonight. OKH

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Read my rant on the Ford belt tension pulley.
Buy a Toyota a and spend your free time hunting varmints. Buy a Ford and forfiet your weekends under the hood.

Good luck, cept I would go 4 cylinder unless you tow. I drove my 4 cyl 92 yota to Montanna and back without a hitch. Stupidist thing I ever ever did was trade it in on an F250 cuz I had to have the full size rig... Never again. Older and wiser now!

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Our last 3 vehicles have all been toy's. The x-cab 4X4 truck is a 94, pre-Tacoma, w/ 110k and runs great. Change the fluids regularly, and it should go 200k fine.

We pulled a grossly overloaded 14' Wells Cargo trailer all the way up from Kalifornia, and while we couldn't keep highway speed up the mountain passes, it made it fine.

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Stopped tonight and looked at the new Double Cab Tundra's. Was very impressed with it. Previously had my heart set on a Ford but am now rethinking that. Anyone know of a message board for Toyota Trucks?

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Toyota needs to put a small 4 or 5 liter diesel in the Tundra. THAT would be awesome. My buddy had an 80ish toyota 4x4 with a small diesel in it. We could putt around all day in the mountains and never move the needle off the full mark.

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Good luck, cept I would go 4 cylinder unless you tow.


One and all -- what level of towing does that go for?

I'm thinking about a "new used" truck in the next year or two. Parameters would be an extended cab (for secure/weatherproof/accessible gear storage, not passengers) and 4x4 (because I'm sick of getting stuck on the way to & from hunting).

I would like to be able to tow a light trailer with a 14' aluminum V-hull -- no big motor and not full of all my worldly goods. (Maybe some decoys, though.)

Also, I'd really like an auto transmission -- not studly but I've got tendinitis in my left knee from driving in the $#^%$&^ traffic here.

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Went and drove the truck last night and I was impressed. That thing moves better than I figured it would. He wants too much and so I told him to call when he could get a better price worked out. I figure that will be some time this morning. I would also like to hear what the limit of towing on these are. OKH

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OKH the towing info is on the data plate in the driver door frame. The curb weight is on the plate and you use that to determine the towing. tom


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Having been through two vehicle searches in the last two years, I spent considerable time perusing the car/truck forums and also the vehicle boards of the hunting/shooting forums. FWIW, I bought a Toyota Tundra V8 Extended cab to replace a very reliable but 12 year old F-150 with 140,000 on it.



Funny thing - according to the collective thoughts of the public, if you own a Dodge, Ford or a Chevy, you either have the greatest and most reliabe vehicle since two feet were invented, or you have the biggest POS ever fostered on the unsuspecting masses, depending upon the individual experiences of the owner.



But, no one ever bad mouths a Toyota - at least not for mechanical reliability. They may rust, or if you haul bricks for a living they may not be powerful enough, but for a gas and go vehicle that can still handle some rough terrain and about 90% of what an average joe will ever need a truck to do - I have not ever seen one complaint.



There may be better machines for other purposes. But I like to keep things simple and buy things that I know won't let me down - that's why I like Leupold scopes and why the next truck I buy will almost assuredly be another Toyota.


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I tow with my trucks a lot. I haul around a 1,100 lb. Crestliner bass/walleye boat about 3 times a week. My truck had a 4 cyl 22R engine. It wouldn't do 75 up the mountain passes, but no problem keeping up to speed on the flat. I would put the transfer case in low range for pulling it out of the water on the boat ramps (leave the hubs free) and it does everything I could want it to do. Last year I upgraded and bought a 99 Tacoma with the 4 cyl engine. WOW...what a huge increase in horsepower! I went to Colorado last year hunting with a buddy for a week. We had it loaded heavy cab high. We got 21 miles a gallon and kept it around 75 the whole way, even in the mountain passes. ATV trailers and boats are no problem with the newer Tacoma 4 cyl engines. The older 22R engines were a bit lacking, but the new 4 cylinder engine has more power than the older V6 engines. Flinch


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I concur on the Yota's, I'm on my 3rd one all 4cyls. I don't make a habit of it, but have been known to tow my 20 ft. boat w/115 or my 4 place snowmachine trailer loaded w/ sleds with just my little Toy. Looks funny but it works in a pinch when and if my fullsize GMC is visiting the car doc.


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