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I have an old (1950's) wingmaster in 16 ga. with a badly chipped butt stock. Have found lots of Remington replacements for 12 ga. but none for other sizes. This gun has the 16 ga. size receiver. Would really prefer a straight grip stock on this
(and on my Savage/Fox in 16 ga for that matter) as this is a dedicated upland/small game gun. Does anyone know of potential sources?

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Have you measured your gun's receiver compared to a M870 12 gauge? (length, thickness, etc.)

I bet you'll find they are the same size - and your M870 will take a 12ga stock. A few years ago Remington made a run of 16ga M870's - but on 12ga frames. Only smaller sized-M870 frames I'm aware of are the ones Remington uses to make their M870 Express or Wingmaster SG's in 20 or 28 gauge, or in .410.

If your gun's receiver dimensions are the same as 12ga guns - you can find used M870 stocks on eBay, or brand new stocks on Brownells.com, MidwayUSA.com and other similar sites.

If you can use 12ga stocks, you can use synthetic and not only wood.

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Stubbleduck:
Thanks for the info, but this is a 16 ga. on a real 16 ga (or 20 ga) frame. The gun was made in 1953.

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Why not patch it and refinish it yourself? You can even cut the pistol grip off and reshape to get the straight stock you want. I have done it....not that difficult.

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Its always possible you're right, but why not measure anyway?

What if you get lucky and discover what I'm suggesting is [possibly] right. It will save you some wear and tear! Your claim there was a unique 16-size M870 is the first I have ever [EVER] heard about.

I have followed closely the developement and marketing of the M870 family of pumpguns since the 1970's.

The only lightweight-framed Remy shotguns I'm aware of and built by Remington started about the same time Big Green made (for a few years - mid late 1970's and early 80's) their 20 gauge (and 12ga) "Special Field" M1100's and M870's.

Also prior to and during that time one had to stipulate when buying a M870 whether he wanted a standard 2 3/4in gun, or a 3in magnum. Before the introduction of the "Express" versions of the M870's, Remington didn't offer all 870's with 3inch chambers, and charged custiomers extra for any kind of "magnum."

I know all this as I was an over-enthusiastic high school student during those years, (growing up in florida) who tried like hell to be a successful duch hunter with a couple 2 3/4in, 12 and 20gauges pumpguns. Florida was a lousy "duck state!" and I didn't kill very many.

Since those years Remington has always offered small-frame M870's, but prior to then, I was only aware that Browning had made a (Belgian) 'Sweet Sixteen' version and size of their famous A-5 semi-auto SG, and that Ithaca had made their M37 pumpgun on a 16ga frame.

Also Winchester had built a 16ga-framed Model 12 pumpgun (smaller than the 12, but bigger than the 20gagg).

That last point about the 16ga M12 I know is correct because a buddy had one, and is the only Model 12 I've ever actually shot. It also the only 16ga I've actually shot!

Good luck, Boyd!

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STubbleduck: Hope for the best prepare for the worst. Your're right. Might as well measure and see. Thanks for your input.

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This is to confirm for those with old (early 50's) 16 ga wingmasters, the replacement 20 ga stocks by Ramline fit.


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