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My Montana 7-08 wins hands down on killin' without kickin' - but my 25-06 and 243 are not far behind.
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got to get me a 7mm-08 or 308 in a nice tidy package, life just doesn't seem well rounded with out one or the other.
If I was elected president, I would make sure there was one or the other in every home! 
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kill'em more than kick would go to my Encore 50 cal muzzle loader load with a 300gr hornady XPT sabot, on top of 90 grains of Triple 7. (displayed in my avatar  ) Kicks about like my -06 but plows a huge whole in deer. Also I know it's not a rifle but my TenPoint Blazer crossbow has No kick at all, and is quite the efficiant killer out to 40-50 yards. My 338win mag kicked more, but I sold it. lol
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"Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything." Genesis 9:3
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I have always figured that my 94 .30-30 was mighty gentle even with just the steel butt plate. Its actually the first rifle I shot. I can think of anything in North America that wouldn't or hasn't dropped with a 170 grain from a .30-30
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I never saw that one coming Would add, I concur!
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Kills= Custom 25 WSM
Belt you= Savage 210 with 2 3/4 or 3" Winchester Supreme's Slugs.
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257 Roberts - Killem
7mm mag - Kickem
IMHO
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The best part of hunting and fishing was the thinking about going and the talking about it after you got back. - Robert Ruark
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no kickem and has filled an ark or two - 3006
big kickem (friend has one) bambi's do not seem to go down any faster - 300rum
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I'd have to go with the 270, my first rifle. The 30-30 range is to short for my liking.
At the other end of the spectrum well my 378 will knock them down like no other.
Can't seem to get them 300 grain bullets over 3100 fps no matter how much of the 7828 I put in them jugs. After 115 grains, I believe it just blows out the barrel unburnt?????
118 grains yields the same speed but the air really stinks from the gun powder. Yes I do use the Fed primers recommended and I've tried others also.
Just working loads up on my 338/378 Accumark but it sure is sweet shooting compared to my older 378. very mild kick and not so loud that's with the 250 SMK. Haven't killed anything yet but hopefully there is an ELK waiting for me over in 356 or 522.Alberta.
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Speaking of kick, the first gun I owned was a Winchester M370 Waterfowler. That is a 30-inch-barreled, 12 gauge, single-shot, 3-inch chamber, and the thing weighs maybe 5 lbs. It has a hard black plastic buttplate. With just about any load that thing makes my shoulder turn all shades of black, blue, and everything inbetween. 3-inch turkey loads are brutal. That is the first gun I reloaded for, starting out with Feltan Bluestreak fiber wads and Alcan AL-5 powder in any hull I could scrounge. That was a few years ago.
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Less recoil for the killing power:
Any .25, which of course means the .25-35 is best of all, with the .250 Savage for "long range." But even the .257 Roy is a mild round that kills well. John, I gotta believe you on the 25-35. I've been keeping an eye out for one for years but the only ones I find are the so-called "collectable" guns with their corresponding high-altitude price tag. I might have to pick-up a donor Marlin and get it rebarreled some day. Another one I look for is a Savage 99 in 22 High Power. I shot a buddie's a few times and it is sweet as candy. Don't know if I'd use it for tigers and such though.  -
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Kick-em and Kill-em all in one for me: 300WM with 150BT's at 3350fps+. Yes they nuked on whitetails, but I had a long string of kills that dropped on impact. I don't roll that way anymore.
The 308 always seemed to be a giant killer in our family. Most cup/cores held together okay and gave great performance with good exit holes and blood trails.
Now with even more aplomb
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My experience has been that the .25-'06 and the .280 Ackley kill way out of proportion to their size. I've used 100-grain Hornadys or Ballistics in the .25-'06 and either 120 Ballistics or 139 Hornadys in the .280, which might account for the electocution-like kills.
Recoil beyond killing? That's easy, the .338WinMag in a Ruger 77 Flatbolt. Kicks the everloving schit out of you and doesn't kill any better than the .308 Winchester. Great for hair-chested, testosterone-loaded teenagers ... and that's about all.
Steve
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Killem with no kickem would be the 260 Remington with 120 balistics at 3000 fps,very comfortable to shoot for me or various first time hunters.
Killem with too much kickem was the 300 Ultra Mag,killed everything dead but man did it hurt to shoot.
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I've been impressed with the .250 Savage's affect on deer, and it does not recoil very much at all. The round that seems to kick far beyond it's worth is for my money the 3" 20 gauge.
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Kill'em - .243, 6.5x55 and .270
Kick'em - .375 H&H
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Kill'em : 25-35 WCF, 6.5x55 SM, 7mm Mauser, 30 WCF, 308 Win, 30-06, 32 WS, 8mm Mauser, 33 WCF, 348 WCF, 35 Rem, 38-55, 40-82 WCF, 45-70, 45-90 - each used within its limits.
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35 Remington and 35 Whelen. I became a firm 35 believer in the past three years.
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