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In our post about the water buffalo hunt, Charlie Sisk and I forgot to mention that I finally designed a real wildcat cartridge (as opposed to the fictitious B-29 which appeared several years ago in HANDLOADER). Charlie has been after me for several years to invent one, since every gun writer has to.

The round is the 9.3mm Barsness-Sisk, which we have decided should be shortened to the 9.3 BS. It's the .350 Remington Magnum necked up, all the way to .366". This may sound useless, but that never prevented most recent wildcats from seeing the light of day.

The 9.3 BS actually has several advantages, at least as real and significant as the wildcats alluded to above:

1) It will duplicate the ballistics of the 9.3x62mm Mauser in a short action. The 9.3x62 has survived for about 100 years, so is obviously a round with merits.

2) Unlike some other short magnums, it will feed in an average short action.

3) It beats the .350 itself by using heavier bullets. Most .35's have 1-16 twists, which won't stabilize bullets over 250 grains. The 9.3 BS can (and will) use bullets up to 300 grains.

So you see that it very definitely fulfills a crying need. We have arranged for reamers already, and expect to have a working rifle within a few weeks.

JB

M.D.

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MD,



Good deal! I'm looking forward to hearing more on this one. What action did you gentlemen settle on? Myself, I'm still awaiting my Win 70 S/A for the re-barrel & deep throat job to 350RM. I went with a 12 twist "just in case". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />



As for your new 9.3BS, maybe RickBin will step up to the plate! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />



MtnHtr

John:

I'm sure it will fly off the shelves! I predict Remington will bring it out in its Classic in 2005! Lapua and Norma must be scrambling to beat the other to the market with brass. I think someone on the Campfire ought to be the first to Ackleyize it. Oh gosh, PM's coming in already.

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Rick

I suspect there may have been more than just a little whiskey and a few late nights surrounding the "development" of this metric BS <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Visualizations of a Texan and Montanan running amok! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


MtnHtr

Mule Deer,

Like anything that is xxBS, let me get my hip boots and shovel, and then we can start swapping load full...

Congrats ... The only question is, if the 9.3x62mm has worked so well for over 100years and you are only going to do the same, what is new???? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Fun anit it....

Regret to inform you that Lazzeroni Arms has already done this. It is called the Pterodactyl Hummingbird.
Lawyers will be intouch. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


BCR

Pick
The reason for the 9.3 BS is it will work in a short action.....a little less weight.....shorter bolt throw....shorter overall length on the rifle.....and I just knew the 9.3 Guy would love it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Charlie

Given the natural cynicism of this outfit, might I humbly suggest changing the name to Sisk-Barsness? Just something about that BS nomenclature that doesn't inspire confidence. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

9.3 Guy
I knew you would like this one.....its real, aint no BS (no pun intended) (I think) in this one....Dave Kiff at Pacific Tool will make the reamer and headspace gages...I'm thinking a 250 Barnes -X would be a nearly perfect bullet if it will shoot...if not, a 250 grain Ballistic Tip should shoot fine.....but on my rifle, it will shoot a 286 grain Partition...no if, ands, or buts about it... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Charlie

I like your new venture because I really like 9.3's, but why

go with the gal with the girdle, 350 rm case? Why not go with a WSM case and approximate 9.64 velocities? I like short cases and short actions for all the above obvious reasons as well.

Im willing to bet that the wider bullet will allow this WSM to feed better, if that is a problem.

So far with my 300 WSM, I have not had one feeding failure out of hundreds of rounds.

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Dube, I think a 9.3 BS will sell with this crew lol. tom

That great rushing sound (audible in Texas and Montana I'm sure) is the combined exhale of many thousands of shooters who have been holding their breaths for this one...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Well........hundreds maybe.

Dozens?

Uhhhh.......welllll.......there's me and another guy down the alley....(I think).... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Just 'cuz nobody needs this, is not an excuse to not build it.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

JimF

That wasn't an exhale. Somebody farted....really loud <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Flinch

naw, the loud noise was a barking spider. the true greeting for the new BS actually was silent but deadly; nice touch considering the letter designation. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

BINGO! Move this guy up to Campfire Kahuna! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


BMT

Charlie,

My recently planned trip to Tx got postponed to July. But it looks as if my 9.3 stable will not be complete 'til I have a 9.3BS. I am currently in the prcess of parting with about 10 or so rifles to build funds to have you make me one. Do you think with JimF's input, we could make it a 6 lb'er?

When I come to Tx, we will discuss it over a steak dinner (my treat) and the approiate liquid refreshment, of course. I'll look forward to it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ...the 9.3Guy

I see another inherent problem there pumpgun, if they elect to go with their first choice: Eventually we'll all start referrin' to it here as the 9.3 Big Stick.
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