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DEMOCRATS ARE PATHETIC

One thing is becoming very clear to me, democrats really don't care about human rights. Thats why they got the black population hooked on welfare, so they "perceived" the demo's where helping them, when in reality, the democrats made the black community dependent on the government for handout's. Relative to human rights, it also appears they really dont care about freeing the Iraqi people, or doing anything that would improve the rights of women in the middle east. Do they really care about women, or are they the perverts out knocking up all the women and then offering them an abortion, and by all means, women, according to the demo's they prefer you wait until you clearly have a child in your womb, and then go get it aborted (trashcans free at democratic party abortion centers).

They want to defend our country, yet, strangely, thru out the whole democratic presidential nomination process, it was "only" Joe Leiberman who believed removing Saddam was the right thing while all of the rest, including John Kerry, one of my fellow vietnam vets I am "not" proud of, who runs around making me wonder just how he would defend this country. He says he would bulid up our military, yet his voting record shows very clearly he voted against the CIA, against the patriat missle defense system that saved so many lives in Saudi Arabia, and Isrial, he voted against the F-15 multi role fighter, in fact, basically every time he voted relative to our defense, he voted against anything that we as a nation have done, and every item has proven to have been well worth it, like defeating the cold war when the Soviet Union realized they had no chance of defeating us........and we knew it.

The democratic party I used to remember was of the Kennedy era. Kennedy believed in a strong national defense (and at least he had classier affairs, LOL), and lowered taxes to stimulate the economy, same thing done successfully by Reagan, and now Bush. But, oh no, our current classless group of democrats are still playing their age old game of "class warfare" here at home. And doesnt it just make you wonder "why" democrats really "dont" want our economy to improve? Boy, now there is a bunch of zero's who truely have fooled the lesser educated, and poor of our society. Why would anyone vote for the democratic party when they want to raise your taxes, lower your standard of living, they openly want the economy to fail on your behalf hoping you now will vote for them (which is a pathetic way of thinking), and they talk a real big story about believing in our national safety and defense, yet their voting record says they dont want to spend money on our military.

And let's get real, Democrats dont walk their talk, as shown by the women's feminist groups in the US that gladely let Bill Clinton off the hook for exploiting a 19 year old female intern into servicing his.........well you know what. So I will say it again, why on God's Green Earth, would you want to vote for a party that really doesn't care about anything really except their own power.

Why would you vote for a democrat when they tend to vote against our "right to keep and bear arms" quite regulary.

And what about their age old stratagy of trying to steal elections where the punch ballot is used? It is documented this practice started in Stockton CA in the early 80's, and the stratagy was the same, force a recount over and over, until the vote came your way. You see, by handling the cards, chads fell out, got demples, they even got pregnant, which I am sure delited the democrats,etc, and like shuffling cards, the vote could be changed. So they try to steal elections. documented and proven.

Democrats are even so low that they tried to cheat our overseas military out of their votes in 2000 presidential election. IF JOHN KERRY KNOWS SO MUCH ABOUT AIRCRAFT CARRIERS, THEN WHY DIDNT HIS SORRY ASS COMPLAIN BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN WE DONT POSTMARK OR REQUIRE STAMPS ON NAVAL SHIP'S MAIL THAT IS OVERSEAS.

WHY DIDNT JOHNNY VIETNAM VET, WHO TOUTS THAT HE CARES SO MUCH ABOUT VETERANS GO "BALLISTIC" OVER THAT BULL SHI% THE DEMOCRATS WHERE DOING in the 2000 presidential election florida fieasco, TO DISCREDIT THE MILITARY OVERSEAS VOTE???? Why, because he is a damn democrat, that is why, and they are nothing but worthless excuses for Americans.

Hell, is it any wonder, I am a voting Republican who comes from a family of staunch Missouri Democrats. It seems to me if you believe in freedom, equal rights, prosperity, and quality life, then you had best be voting Republican. We'll worry about the top 1% richie riches later. I dont have much use for them either.

You won't get an argument from me, AggieDog. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Here are the thoughts of another former Democrat, on the condition of the present day Democratic party:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110003143

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The fact is, the democrats have been dying for something to bash Bush over, and where I draw the line is the democrats clearly care more about their political power and such, as to comprmise our national security. They would rather give welfare handouts than insure the defense capability of our nation. Frankly, I think they have just about screwed up everything in this nation, only for us to elect Republicans to straighten out their messes they have created. The most hollow argument by democrats is related to the national deficit. First of all, you can see that the only reason the budget got any where near being balanced under Bill Clinton's reign, is he inherited an economy that began improving under Bush SR, and as we all know it turned into a barn burner economy in the 90's. Think about this, during this same period of iminse prosperity, the good ole democrats gave us our largest "Tax Increase" in history. And when the economy finally went south under Bill Clinton's term in the late 90's, they denied it, trying to win the presidency based on an earlier bonanza economy, that frankly, they had nothing to do with relative to it's occurance. Bush Jr lowered our taxes, but, true to form, the democrats ran off at the mouth in their age old class warfare BS claiming it only helped the top tax payers. Funny, they dont like Bush's tax cut, so guess what their stratigy is, you guessed it, raise the taxes on you and I. And quite frankly, when you look at our national deficit compared to those in the past, based on incoming revenue, from an improving economy I might add, it is clear, this deficit is no worse than others we have had. Dont blame George Bush for Osama Bin Laden's group of terrorists attacking us, and costing our nation billions and billions of dollars, plus the loss on our homeland of over 4,000 people. Remember those people who jumped to their deaths???? I bet they would be voting for George Bush were they alive today. And I challange your national patriatism if you are one of the slime trying to take Bush down!!! Remember that Bill Clinton had Osama Bin Laden handed to us on a silver platter by the Sudanese government, and Clinton failed to take the appropriate action???? Remember the first attempt to blow up the World Trade Center under Bill Clinton's watch, and now remember "he failed to take action". Is that the kind of president you really want in the White House? Get real people, the Democrats dont walk their talk, and they care more about their own power than you and I, period. For that, they dont deserve anyone's vote. John Kennedy is probably rolling over in his grave, watching Teddy Kennedy in complete discust! I submit George Bush is right for us now, and I also submit we would be on our hands and knees if a democrat currently was our President. The demise of the democratic party began the day they cared more about votes than you or I. That my friends, is the sorry state of the democratic party. And if Hillary Clinton is their heavy gun, my God, they are really a pathetic party. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

In short, the Democrats are about the acquisition and maintenence of their own power. It is the religion of the left. This should come as no surprise because the icons of the movement Marx, Lenin, and Mao, atheists all, wrote extensively about this religion.

The Democrats are well on their way to becoming a minority party. My concern is now the Republicans. The biggest problem the United States faces may well be that there is no mainstream political party that truly believes in smaller, less obtrusive government. While I'll probably break down and vote for W, I really don't want to. He is ruling us as a liberal: Open borders, "free" drugs, out of control spending, etc. IMHO he would sign the assault weapon ban extension if he could get away with it.

It makes me wonder if the only real difference between the parties is the 2 to 5 year difference in time it takes for us to go broke.

Where is the party of small government? If you think its the Republicans I've got a bridge... .

Thanks AG, I needed that. Here is some more edification:



http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_112103/content/institute.guest.html



I have to add this too;



Betcha didn't know this: How Enron Worked the President





This is an interesting bit of information that you don't hear much about.



A... Enron's chairman did meet with the president and the vice president in the Oval Office.



B.. Enron gave $420,000 to the president's party over three years.



c.. It donated $100,000 to the president's inauguration festivities.



D.. The Enron chairman stayed at the White House 11 times.



e.. The corporation had access to the administration at its highest levels and even enlisted the Commerce and State Departments to

grease deals for it.



f.. The taxpayer-supported Export-import Bank subsidized Enron for more than $600 million in just one transaction. Scandalous!!



g.. BUT wait ...... the president under whom all this happened WASN'T George W. Bush.



h.. SURPRISE ......... It was Bill Clinton!



Please pass this on so the whole Country will know. The Media Won't!



Kirt

Mauser, I agree with you on that. The fact is, we now need a mid stream, in the center, main party for common working class americans. The democrats used to fill that role, but their move over the years to the far left has left them unattractive for middleclass america. The far right in the Republican party hasnt figured out that people dont vote Republican for their ideas either. I will vote for Bush again, but, I dont agree on the immigration issue, period. I also think our govt is spending money foolishly. We need a requirement that they keep our budget ballanced, or they are all fired.

Aggiedog: Americans who just want to be left alone-to have liberty-are the citizens who are disinfranchised these days. To me its not a rich-poor thing but rather a government versus the rest of us thing. A very large percentage of the "fat cats" out there are liberals.

Pathetic?

I wish the Constitutionists were as Pathetic.

Democrats are well funded, organized, control major media, (both "news" and entertainment) reproduce their own voters through wefare and govenment entitlements, are united in their desire, means and purposes.

It is a fool who underestimates their adversary. I think your talking foolish to call them pathetic.

Ram, I think they are pathetic, where does that imply that they arent organized? I think democrats are pathetic because of the very reasons I listed. Care to re-read it?

You are 100% correct. I am an American of African descent & 69 years old. This being the case I clearly rember when I believed that liberals were on the right side of the civil rights struggle. I also believed that conservatives were the enemy. After all, they had fought for decades against a federal law outlawing lynching. They couched their resistance to change in terms of "States Rights" & the Constitution. Those arguments were incomprehensible to me, given the fact that my life was always at risk simply because of the color of my skin. Any drunken cracker, especially in the south, could kill me with impunity. They boasted that no white person would ever be convicted of killing a black person. I hated them. Looking back, I still have difficulty not hating them.



I didn't realize at the time that conservatives whites marched with MLK. I was a kid. Absolutely certain about absolutely every thing. I was years away from having my first actual conversation with a conservative. The years had not taught me how corrosive & counter productive hatred can be. I thank God that he spared me long enough to learn that.



It took a long time to realize that the radical leftists who were so vocal in their denunciation of this country had an agenda, & it went far beyond helping my people. Today I see them for what they were & what they continue to be. A bunch of damned traitors who wish to destroy America.



My eyes were opened through my involvement in the shooting sports. I have hunted most of my life. I'm a reloader & despite my age I still get into the field. The season that just passed resulted in my taking three Mulie does. The last one I took at what several readings from a Lieca 1200 rangefinder indicated was 326 yards away. You may have trouble believing this, but the wind was about thirty mph, gusting to 40.



I had a rest on a hay bale & the wind actually helped in that it pushed me steadily into hay piles beside me. That bullet printed exactly where I intended. The rifle was a M70 Featherweight in 6.5 x 55. The load was Nosler 125 Spitzer Partition in front of H4350 sparked by CCI BR primers. Forgive me for bragging. Again, I thank God for his blessings in my life.



Anyway, the dispicable way that the mainstream media & Democratic politicians attacked the Second Amendment revealed how deceitful they are. I am now convinced that the entire gun control movement is intended to disarm this nation. It is necessary to achieve that goal before America can become a part of the Global Village that is on the horizon.



I have been fascinated by this thread. My first post expressed my reservations about George W. Bush. Since 1974 I have been looking into the public schools in our country. What I have learned has caused me to despair. I started out looking for leftists behind every bush. No pun intended. It does seem, based on what I have recently learned, that this government is utilyzing public schools to destroy America.



What the left will never acknowledge is that we live in an America that has changed. The civil rights struggle was won. If anyone had told me that I would live to see an America in which racism was decidedly unpopular, & my people would be successful in any endeavor that they prepared for & worked toward, I would not have believed it. Little attention is paid to the fact that my people are now Mayors, law enforcement professionals, super wealthy TV & movie personalities & business people. Colin Powell & Condalisa Rice are in the President's cabinet. Yet I still hear black people claiming that nothing has changed.



I am convinced that the reason for these seemingly insane claims are based in the brainwashing our kids get in school & in the media. This kind of ignorance is the result of the repeated lies of the former civil rights leaders who are today prostituting the once deserved respect of our people for their own enrichment. Their lies are reinforced in the classrooms of schools that no longer teach American history, except in a distorted & negative light. These politicians couldn't care less about our people.



If I sound like I think there is a gigantic conspiracy at work in my country it is only because I do. I am convinced that the Democratic Party & the Republican Party are both working toward the day when American sovreignty will be surrendered, & there will in fact be a one world government.



Fantastic? Unbelievable? I wish it were. I will assure you that I can absolutely prove that what I have just stated is true. This information is available for anyone who can find the time, & knows where to look for it. A start could be a government document put together by the U.S. Office of Education back in 1967.



The Behavioral Science Teacher Education Program is the result of an exercise in what has been described as futurology. The efforts of a small number of private foundations, select universities, global corporations, think tanks & government agencies compiled this document. It bears the U.S. Office of Education Contract number OEC-0-9-320424-4042 (010). There are enough books addressing the covert undermining of parental authority & the deliberate dumbing down of America to convince anyone.



Berit Kjos wrote "Brave New Schools" that lays out the classroom behavioral techniques of some of todays' teachers engaged in the "correction" of attitudes of the children entrusted to their care. Another book is by B.K. Eakman. The title is "Educating for the New World Order". It describes the illegal, behind the scenes collaboration of the forces mentioned above.



As I said, I despair. This process has been going on for decades undetected. It is probably too late to change things. As to gun rights or any other issue, consider the fact that each generation of students will become anti-gun, anti-American, anti-Christian pawns. In spite of my despair I will continue to share information for as long as I can.

I will continue to try to expose hustlers like Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan & the Black Caucus for what they are. Radical leftist betrayers of the dream of Dr. King.



Understand that there are black conservatives who share my views. I communicate with many of them. I was priviliged to be able to speak at the annual Repudiation of Jessie Jackson Day Protest in Los Angeles in January in Los Angeles. This was the fifth of a series of demonstrations put together by Jessie Lee Peterson. He is a black pastor who was assaulted by one of Jessie Jackson's sons & a couple of his goons. Jessie Lee had the temerity to stand up at one of the Operation Push fund raising events & ask why the money Jackson extorts from cowardly corporations only goes to Jackson's family, friends or those subcontractors who subsequently make substantial contributions to the Jackson enterprises.



Jessie Lee had trouble getting out of the auditorium. In spite of all the witnesses to the assault there was no arrest of the attackers. It has taken five years to get past the road blocks placed by th Democratic politicians supporting Jackson to finally get his day in court. At 9 AM on February 26, 2004 Jessie Lee's suit will find its way into a court room.



Some may feel that all this is far away from the thread. It may be, but I see all this as connected to the Second Amendment & all the rest of our rights as citizens of the greatest nation on earth.



As to the Democratic candidates, the Black Caucus, Jessie Jackson, etc., as well as any Republican politician who is working behind the scenes to force this global curriculum on the children of this nation, I spit on them.

legs,

I don't debate politics a lot, maybe I should. That's one of the best written posts I have read. People have to see through the veil, so to speak and really see what is going on. The Hitler youth of tomorrow are in school today. I think most of what we see on the news today is like a facade and very few dig any deeper than that. Only a few brave people have insight anymore as to what is really happening. Americans are being force fed like cattle for the day of slaughter.

Qtip
Soli Deo Gloria!
To God Alone Be The Glory!

Outstanding post legs, and dead nuts on taeget. In my case you are preaching to the choir, I have held this position for many moons. That is why my kids and now my Grandson go to private school where they are taught real history and social studies. The current offerings in public school is aimed at control of their minds, not expanding their horizons. Bottom line:

"DUAS TANTUM REX ANXIUS OPTAT, PANEM ET CIRCENSES."

"The people long eagerly for two things - bread and circuses."

--- Juvenal, Roman rhetorician and satirical poet (47-138 A.D.)

When told that the poor were starving because they had no bread,
Marie-Antoinette (wife of Louis XVI of France) said
"Qu'ils mange la brioche", which is usually translated as "let them eat cake".

Brioche is not cake.

As long as we have pro-sports, NASCAR, beer and pizza to distract the masses, the "leaders" will keep herding us down the Primrose path!

Legs,

You will never know what your post meant to one little old Caucasian boy in Alaska trying to raise a family in a world gone amok. How come I never hear YOU talking on TV or in the paper? Cause you won't sing the song the choir director wants. Couldn't agree with you more on the schools. It's one of the reasons why we have home schooled our oldest for the last 3 years. The biggest part of the local taxes I pay go to schools, it takes time to educate out kids, but we feel it is necessary and too important to have the schools of today do it for us. So I pay my taxes for the schools and educate my kids at home <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />.I desperately needed to know you were out there. Thank you for having the courage to tell the truth. 1ak

Mr. Lee - How exactly do you think that public schools are trying to control the minds of your children? I happen to be very conservative and I teach high school social studies in a public school. By in large educators tend to be liberal, however this does not mean that any mind control is at work. You and leg need to get off the paranoia kick. The problems in education are many faceted and not at all related to a gov't conspiracy.

ranger1,

Being paranoid and being aware is two different things.
I'm aware that the liberals have a very heavy hand in the education system, especially at the college level. How long do you think it would take high school and college students; after being fed "tolerance", "diversity", and "thinking global", to lose any regard for patriotism or traditional morality? Try to mention morality in many of our nations schools and you will get blasted because they say you are teaching religion-but it's perfectly okay to teach the principles and morality of secular humanism; which is also a "religion". I know some teachers and college professors that are fed up with the system, but know they are almost helpless to change it. Maybe if the NEA disappeared we would be better off.

Qtip
Soli Deo Gloria!
To God Alone Be The Glory!

These things have already happened, but they are as much a product of ex-flower child parents as they are of a liberal education system. I cannot change the education system but I can impart truthful, sane, objective history and gov't lessons on the students that I teach. The NEA is a bit commie but then again most labor unions are. I shudder to think what my paycheck would look like if I didn't have represetation. Just to give you an idea of one of the problems in education today, I made just a bit over $21,000 last year. I have a bachelors degree and the same student loans that a friend who is a petroleum engineer has. I graduated with honors and chose teaching because I have a passion for it. BUT, do you really think that pay like that is going to attract the best and brightest to the profession? How about overcrowding of classrooms, inner-city violence, english as a second language, broken homes, abuse, poverty, inadequate facilities, low budgets, etc., etc., these are the issues that are dealt with by the education community that you fail to take into account. I agree that too many educators are liberal, however the only way to change that is to make changes in the system beginning with pay and moving on to standards. No Child Left Behind - a band aid won't fix a broken leg, the system is in need of much more far reaching and intelligent changes than this even begins to address.

ranger 1,

It's too late to move to AK we are cutting teachers from the payroll....granted we have 2100 less students district wide than we did 5 years ago, but teachers MUST GO. Meanwhile we will keep on the payroll the 9 custodian positions that we didn't have 5 years ago when enrollment was higher and the 9 "aides" that do the copying and general errands for the teachers. It's a joke but not a funny one, schooling has become another bureaucracy, if you don't give us more money every year we are going to up the pupil/teacher ratio and get rid of all extracaricular (sp?) activities. I salute you for having the courage to do what I would not, you sound like a good egg, our teachers here start at $32k and I know more than a few that make $60k. Our budget is a joke, we get absolutely very little bang for the buck, and while you only make $21K (that's deplorable btw) it is for 9 months of work, even when figured at 12 mos. it's less than $28K per annum. I don't envy you living on that. Tenure is the most deplorable idea in the history of work environment IMO. All of us are only as good as the last product we turned out. But the removal of corporal discipline in the classroom was a big mistake, again just IMO, I got my fanny whacked repeatedly until my freshmen year of high school, and maybe on occassion it wasn't warranted for that specific incident, but it kinda made up for the ones I didn't get caught doing! I never ever felt I was abused, at least until I got home and got an already sore fanny worked over by someone with passion for the job! I don't know the answers, but I feel sorry for someone like you that seems to give a hoot and is stuck in an environment that you work in for the amount of pay you receive. I'm not sure our education system is salvageable, but I salute you for trying to do what you can to keep it from sliding farther down the slope it's on. My answer for my family is we home school, some people look at me like I am from Mars when I tell them that...(like I care what they think) they seem to worry about my daughter being behind socially, guess what she is, she's not into boys yet, has never been kissed or felt up while in Junior High so yeah she's behind socially, works for me. Only time will tell whether we made the right decision or not, but if she turns out to be half the woman her mother is some lucky Joree is getting a heck of a good woman. Best of luck to you, fight the best fight you can. 1ak

ranger1,

I know how you feel about the "pay'. I was a Dep Sheriff for 27 yrs. Ending salary- $31,000! Troopers in NY from what I've heard are going to be making around $70,000 after 5 yrs! Same work, same risk! So teacher pay has to addressed on a district by district basis. What teachers make in cities and suburbs of NY in places is ridiculous compared to your salary.

Qtip
Soli Deo Gloria!
To God Alone Be The Glory!

I look at what and how I was taught and what goes on now in the public school my Grandson USED to attend. Night and day, we were taught how to learn and subjects that required some research. Today the books are waterd down with "Politicaly Correct" terms and IMHO, falsehoods about much history, or just glossing over and bypassing.

The kids are taught that there is no right or wrong if involved in an altercation, victim and aggressor are punished equally!

They are taught that they are entitled to a plethora of goodies, even if they don't earn them, and failure has become almost obsolete. Just lower the standards to the lowest common denominator and leave no one behind. No incentive to build a work ethic in that situation, earn selfrespect and pride of accomplishment. Give respect, that is a laugh, demand it, not earn it is the name of the game today

Then there is all the "embrace diversity" thing. What the hell is wrong with admitting we are not all the same and learning to live with that? We knew when I went to school that some would be leaders of business and some would be working for them, no shame in being a worker as long as you did your best and made no excuses. Cream does rise to the top.

We are dumbing down our children and cheating them from the pride that comes from working and accomplishing set goals. Not only that, but teaching them that they will be rewarded no matter how mediocre their performane in the name of "fairness" and non-discrimination.

Bottom line: Why is it that the labeling and instructions on products have to be at a 7th or 8th grade level for the average HS "Graduate" to be able to have some comprehension of what they are reading (if in fact they bother) or why can't HS students make change without out a computer cash register to tell them what it is, for that matter why do the keys on these devices need graphic renderings of the item rather than the printed name (as in a McDonalds)?

I could go on but I am tired of this argument, we NEED to get back to basic education and away from makeing all "FEEL GOOD" about themselves.

T Lee, on this subject I am in compete agreement with you. Excellent post.