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Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Mark R Dobrenski #2588127 11/21/08
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,218 Parkersburg, WV High_Brass Campfire Tracker
High_Brass Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,218 Parkersburg, WV	Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski Chucks one of the good guys and I do miss him around here. Spoke with him the other night and all is well in his camp. Dober Yeah I miss his posts. Glad to hear Chuck and tribe are doing well. Thanks for the update Mark. Chad Karma and Trouble have busses, and there's always an empty seat.

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Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. High_Brass #2588134 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 28,277 Bozeman, Montana Mark R Dobrenski Campfire Ranger
Mark R Dobrenski Campfire Ranger Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 28,277 Bozeman, Montana	Yeah it was good to hear from him, I was loading some yote ammo for my 6/06 and he called to talk about yote scopes for his .243. Too funny... Dober "True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Mark R Dobrenski #2588554 11/21/08
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 402 Da Bayous of Louisiana S Spencer_SS Campfire Member
Spencer_SS Campfire Member S Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 402 Da Bayous of Louisiana	222rem 53TSX at 3200fps. This is where the TSX shines, small cal., low bullet weight, and high vel. 120lbs Doe. The bullet didn't exit because it hit the off side shoulder joint. One of the only problems with small bores was apparent in this case: no exit, no blood to trail. Tact is knowing how to tell someone to go to hell, and have them thank you for it. NRA Life Member, BAA Life Member

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Spencer_SS #2588642 11/21/08
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 21,968 H HawkI Campfire Ranger
HawkI Campfire Ranger H Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 21,968	Spence, Looks like you got your Deuce going.... What load ended up shooting the best for you?

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. HawkI #2588646 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana
Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon	Hawk1, what kind of beer is that? You making me thirsty.... <grin>... The CENTER will hold. Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two FÜCK PUTIN!

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Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Jeff_O #2588656 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA J jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana
jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA	Jeff, you're right TSX bullets don't do much damage, jsut take a look at Spencer SS picture I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Jeff_O #2588659 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana
Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon	That one sure did! Pretty impressive. Sounds like this one didn't though: Originally Posted by Jeff_O Here's a picture of the TSX from that other forum. The story: "Whitetail shot by sister in-law. 7mm-08 120gr TSX at 3k muzzle velocity. 320yds broadside, bullet entered behind the on shoulder but did not hit major bone. Absolutely NOTHING between her and the target. Bullet turned 70 degrees inside and ended up in the flank on the offside. It definately tumbled inside. A second shot through both shoulders ended the deal. I'm as big a TSX fan as the next guy. Just food for thought" The CENTER will hold. Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two FÜCK PUTIN!

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Jeff_O #2588664 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA J jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana
jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA	But, let's ignore the fact that other bullets aren't perfect either. I know that you will continue to. And let's ignore the fact that it held 100% of it's weight. And let's only claim that a bullet did not fail if taken from a dead animal if it's a lead core Last edited by jwp475; 11/21/08. I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. jwp475 #2588682 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana
Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon	I think, like the Japanese Zen potters, if we ever get a perfect bullet, we'll have to break it. Humans are not worthy of perfection. Or something like that. How's this: Since no bullet is perfect, it becomes a game of deciding which tradeoffs a guy wants to make. A person could very easily decide he doesn't WANT the tradeoffs that come with the TSX and opt for a bullet that is "better" for their uses. If this thread accomplishes nothing else than making it so that a guy can make the above statement without the TSX cultists mugging them, then it has accomplished a LOT! The CENTER will hold. Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two FÜCK PUTIN!

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Jeff_O #2588688 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA J jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana
jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA	Better? Of course you never miss an opportunity to extol any defect that you perceived in a TSX, and ignore any in "Your" bullet of choice Maybe Stick is right I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

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Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. jwp475 #2588707 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana
Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon	Since no bullet is perfect, it becomes a game of deciding which tradeoffs a guy wants to make. A person could very easily decide he doesn't WANT the tradeoffs that come with the TSX and opt for a bullet that is "better" for their uses. The CENTER will hold. Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two FÜCK PUTIN!

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Jeff_O #2588717 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA J jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana
jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA	Regurgitating again I see I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Jeff_O #2588743 11/21/08
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,537 Likes: 5 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,537 Likes: 5 Calgary, AB, Canada	Here's the ONSIDE shoulder of the buck I shot this year with the 100gr TSX out of my .25-06 at 3300fps. Shot was at 225 yards. Last edited by Jordan Smith; 11/21/08. Reason: Forgot to attach the pic!

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. jwp475 #2588745 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana
Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon	It's one of those eternally true statements that just bears repeating, I guess... <grin>... The CENTER will hold. Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two FÜCK PUTIN!

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Jeff_O #2588754 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA J jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana
jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA	The trade off's that TSX offer are "DEAD ANIMALS" the recovered bullets were all from (For Heaven Sakes) Dead Animals When the lead cores come unglued (and they do) and give not exits are blood trails the bullets aren't recovered, because the animal isn't recovered. But hey let's just ignore that fact... I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Jordan Smith #2588765 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA J jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana
jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA	Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Here's the ONSIDE shoulder of the buck I shot this year with the 100gr TSX out of my .25-06 at 3300fps. Shot was at 225 yards. Hey Jeff another example of how TSX bullets Suck I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. JJHACK #2588784 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana
Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon	JJHack prefers the TSX for mixed bag general purpose African hunts, so let's get that straight up front. I edited the post below. Originally Posted by JJHACK From my expereince with various ammo, I have this opinion to share: For guns 30 caliber to 8mm in standard cartridges under 3000fps MV I like the Hornady interbond very much on non-DG under 400 pounds. When the game is getting bigger or can fight back requiring bone crunching impacts at close range, I strongly prefer the TSX When the same conditions are met but using rifles shooting over 3000fps the Swift Aframe is a very hard bullet to beat. I think I have seen more shuddering and stunning game stopping impacts with this combination then just about anything else. Same thoughts for DG though, I pick the TSX again All bonded bullets are not the same. The Interbond I think has been the softest and easiest to expand of all I have used. It's a tremendous killer of big game when sized properly and driven to a prudent speed. The North Fork is the opposite end of the scale it's very firm, actually hard with a thick jacket compared to the interbond. The Aframe, woodleigh and accubond seem to split the difference and maybe have it about right for the "all around" use crowd. If I want something for smaller game, I'll use the Aframe or interbond which open better at a greater distance and still hold together great. The CENTER will hold. Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two FÜCK PUTIN!

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Jordan Smith #2588798 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana
Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon	Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Here's the ONSIDE shoulder of the buck I shot this year with the 100gr TSX out of my .25-06 at 3300fps. Shot was at 225 yards. Jordan, is the hole there where you trimmed around the impact? Can't really tell what I'm looking at there... my bad, but if you could explain a little... The CENTER will hold. Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two FÜCK PUTIN!

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Jordan Smith #2588799 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA J jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana
jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA	Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Here's the ONSIDE shoulder of the buck I shot this year with the 100gr TSX out of my .25-06 at 3300fps. Shot was at 225 yards. More proof for Jeff O that TSX bullets [i]don't work on Deer Size Game [/i] You're quite observant and very logical I see I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

Re: Why I am not crazy about the TSX. Jeff_O #2588816 11/21/08
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA J jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana
jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA	With you're vast amount of game taking experience you have undoughtable realized something that has escape me because of my limmited several hundred head taken have shown me I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

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