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I am mostly referring to the Phoenix issues and somewhat to the ejection problems.
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Dennis,who is making and what are the prices of a one piece bolt?
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Both Phoenix and Borden make actions with one-piece bolts and they are in the $1100 range.
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Thanks I knew Borden made them wasn't sure about Phoenix the one pc bolts are nice but pricey!
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The bolts costs more than the rest of the action.
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Just want to chime in, my buddy just p/u my Stiller 6BR from his Hall of Famer BR shooter/gunsmith, and it looks SWEET!
I've heard a few say things about Stiller actions, but I like to go with my own experience making judgments, and MY action seems NICE. I am very optimistic the Bartlein bbl is going to make this package shoot like a Hummer. A few range sessions will tell.
FWIW, I was at the range recently, a guy had a Rem M7 lam. blue in 300 SAUM and the darned thing would not feed well if you pushed the bolt slow. I told him to ram it in there decisively as if he were making a fast 2nd shot in the field. If it does not feed well enough for him, I told him send it back to Rem who designed the whole thing.
Bottom line, those short fat cases I can imagine are a pain to function, which is why many guys who have been around the block prefer older tapered ctg. designs over newer sharper sholdered ones. They feed slicker on average. This is true whether comparing a 7x57/7-08 to a 284, or 308 to 300 Short Mags IMHO.
I can tell you, there is a reason for '700 clones' as I have sold my last Rem. and vow not to own another, and although many top gunsmiths can make them do great things, bottom line, a Custom action is IMHO, a better action 99% of the time. The fit/finish, tolerances, etc. etc. are there with a custom, and although I accept the 700 DESIGN is a good one, I like the custom extractors alone, among many other things when going a custom action route.
I'd imagine most any of these brand actions, will make the user happier in the end, in fuction and in pride, over a 700 any day, not to mention having a better resale value if that day comes.
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6.5BR, I think that you will be very happy with it. Butch
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How are the 6.5x47s doing? I am looking to fill the void between my 260 and 6.5x55....talk about splitting hairs!
I hope to get it out very soon to sight in and perhaps kill something before season is over, but as soon settle on what stock it will be permanently be making a home in and a little load work done, I will get some pics on here if possible.
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Butch, I assume that is his Buck on the right....Zale
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NICE, Butch, what action is your 47 on? Glad the plan came together. Those little BR's will surprise people with what they will do with their preferred powders.
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It is built on a Mod 7 Remington,squared up, fluted bolt with Dans 40X bolt handle, Sako extractor, Shilen barrel, Jewell trigger, Anshutz bolt release, and a Brown Precision Pounder stock. The paint on the stock and the finish on the metal was done by Charlie Santoni or CAS11 on the forum. I made the scope bases out of aluminum to accept Jerry Stillers Rings and it has a VARIX111 in 2.5x8 Leupold. Butch
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