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the 160 barnes tsx-barnes stepping down in weight-they will penetrate and 3300 fps is not slow. I would definatly us the 160
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3300 fps??? Not from the .338 Fed. You must be thinking... I don't know what caliber? Will a 338 WM do that?
Just a WAG based on shooting light bullets in .358... I'm guessing the 338 Fed will push a 160-gn bullet... 2850 fps? Maybe 2900?
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todbartell is reporting 2980fps and Barnes is touting a load that adds 100fps to that. The versatility just keeps on coming. Can't wait for a 85gr Titanium HPBT with a BC of .500!
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I'm getting 2980 fps with the 160 TTSX in my Sako. No high pressure signs, but I got more testing to do yet.
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Wow. Ain't that .308 case sumpthin' <G>.
I love all the research into pushing that sucker, because it all applies very directly to .358, too.
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So, no one here pushing the 160 gr TTSX has shot anything other than milk jugs and paper with it? That wouldn't make me feel good about it...
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itsabrandnewboolit!! If anyone has kilt anything with it they're probably not talking. It wasn't around before last season or we'd be reporting. I think you're smart enough to know it'll perform well. Now get down to the sport shop, pick up a new Kimber in 338Fed and blaze away!
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first I seen of the 160 TTSX was in early July or so.
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If anybody has reported on this bullet, they were probably poaching
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My 338-06 load was 210 NP for years and last one was 210 Barnes as the 130 TSX does so well on deer. I would never take a chance on an elk as the tags are so hard for me to get; so I'd go 210. I love it that you young fellas try all of this new stuff and report back. I might just like to carry 400 grains less in my rifle and even less in my pack! Those hills get higher ever year.
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I love when people say "which ever is more accurate" or "which ever shoots the best" when deciding which to use on elk. Come on they are not prarie dogs. Use the bullet that is going to KILL the best, not print the best groups off of a bench rest....
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well I decided to go with the 210 gr TSX, thanks for all the opinions!
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well I decided to go with the 210 gr TSX, thanks for all the opinions! It sounds like the Sako 85 with a 210gr TSX is a real winner!
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Even though I posted these elsewhere, adding them to this thread will help someone out who is doing a search. These are the new 210 gr TTSX in .338", fired from a .338 Win Mag at about 2880 fps. Recovered from under the off side hide of a large bull shot at about 100 yards. Retained weight on each of them is in excess of 209 gr.
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While a 160-grain TSX in the right place would no doubt kill an elk, some years ago (long before the present how-light-can-we-go phase) my old friend Dave Gentry went up to British Columbia to kill a Shiras bull moose, because he was weary of waiting to draw a Montana tag. Dave was one of the early big fans of the X, and he chose for this trip the 175-grain X out of a .338 Winchester Magnum. The shot he eventually got was with a bull quartering away, and after it was all over his conclusion was that even with an X-Bullet, shooting a Shiras moose would have been better done with a heavier bullet. A typical Shiras bull isn't any larger than a big bull elk, and some aren't as large.
My experience with X's is that they'll penetrate about as deeply as a Nosler Partition weighing maybe 15-20% more. This of course depends on the particular Partition, as some of the bigger ones are designed to retain 85-90% of their weight, and hence penetrate just about as deeply as an X of the same weight and diameter. So I would doubt that the 160 TSX would penetrate as deeply as a 210 Partition. Now the 185 .338 TSX very well might, but not the 160.
Personally I'd go with a little more bullet than the 160 in the .338 Federal.
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As would I... The 210 TSX in the 338 Federal is a real performer IMHO
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Sure would like to see what the expansion would look like at about 2100 or so. The pictures I've seen don't show much upset at all at what would be 300-350 yard shots for these smaller cases. I've got an 85 TSX out of a .243 pulled from a clay bank at 330 yards that could be loaded a 2nd time. Been trying to choose between the 210 Partition and the 210 TSX for my 338-06. So far I haven't seen any posts of guys using the TSX from the smaller cases getting their elk at longer ranges, or water jug tests at say 350. I'm thinking I'd have more confidence in the Partition at 2000-2100 than the TSX. Comeon guys, somebody line up some milk jugs downrange and try it out
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The .33 caliber Accubond would be one to consider, too. I do believe there's a 200-gn version.
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