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Originally Posted by Brad
Planning an elk rifle around the idea of a grizzly is like marrying the fat girl because someday the skinny gal "might" get fat...


That's just funny, I don't care who you are.

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Just buy a 300 WM (Win or Weatherby) if you want to burn up all those bullets. I myself would probably choose a plain, boring 30-06.

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Originally Posted by AlaskaCub
Uh Oh....now the Elk are being compared to Grizzlies! Man these are some tough elk!...grin



Quit reading more into it.Never compared f/a.My western hunting includes griz peroid..You [bleep] guys will jump on anything or anybody for kicks..Disgusting

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I agree with you, 7.
I would take a 300 WM if I had even a chance of running into a griz over any lesser caliber.


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.270 WCF with strong modern bullets will do it all.

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Originally Posted by 7 STW
Originally Posted by AlaskaCub
Uh Oh....now the Elk are being compared to Grizzlies! Man these are some tough elk!...grin



Quit reading more into it.Never compared f/a.My western hunting includes griz peroid..You [bleep] guys will jump on anything or anybody for kicks..Disgusting


Just teasing 7, deep breath brotha!

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Never shot an elk, but I have shot a few elk-sized game and larger. everyone that knows me will attest I LOVE my 257 Weatherby, but it simply would not do for me on an animal as large as an elk. Will it kill it? I'm sure it will, hell Roy Weatherby killed all sort of game with it in Africa, but it simply will not hold a candle to a 300. In my view the 300 Weatherby is arguably the best all around caliber, covering just about 95% of the world's game. As for the 375, great caliber, love mine and I've seen it kill a kudu at 350 plus yards, but no way I'd lug one of those around. The 300s just "scream" perfection for the applications inquired about here. As to recoil, what recoil? unless you're some kind of girly-man or have some affliction, the 300's recoil is simply quite manageable. The 257 is great for antelope & deer, but then again with a ~168gr bullet, the 300 will get the job done and it sure as hell will give you a lot more room to maneuver than a 257 when it comes to elk. Lastly, I'm frankly astonished at the "recoil sensitivity" issues proffered here. jorge


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Love my .257 Roy, and .300's too....but for the past several years a lw 700 in .270 ROY trumps them both. Flatter shooting than either and enough bullet weight to get it done. Mooose, bear, caribou, elk, deer, goat, sheep, in the freezer or on the wall.

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Originally Posted by AlaskaCub
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Originally Posted by AlaskaCub
Uh Oh....now the Elk are being compared to Grizzlies! Man these are some tough elk!...grin



Quit reading more into it.Never compared f/a.My western hunting includes griz peroid..You [bleep] guys will jump on anything or anybody for kicks..Disgusting


Just teasing 7, deep breath brotha!


No problem Cubby.
What gets me about this thread is how the 257 is being of all the rage is simply not the better choice for any western big game hunting.Still at times I believe if the gunwriters said the Red Rider BB gun was a moose gun people here would be lining up to follow them off the cliff.


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When I lived in Anchorage, we flew each year to King Salmon for moose hunting. I had a 300 Weatherby and the local guy, Alan Evans, a native, always asked why white people carry cannons instead of sneaking closer to the game.

Allen had one arm, and an iron-sighted Remington model 7 in 308 win. Of course, Allen had almost all fall to hunt (subsistence), and had the rifle in he truck or the boat 24/7.

Arguably, he had more and better opportunities than me to nail a moose with 308. Now, I've hunted moose with my 308, and as stated earlier, slew lots of game with it. But, sometimes, when you have five kids, a day job, and a squadron of Air Force reserve engineers to command in the middle of a war, time is short.

So, I practice two weekends a month at the local range, and I build confidence in my ability to hit at 200-500 yards. I need wallop down range, not on my newly repaired shoulders. The 257 Weatherby seems to fit that bill.

No slight on the 300 win mag (confession: I have one of those, too), but you can shoot a lot more 257 before your shoulder hurts, and trigger time = accuracy in the field. At least for me it does. The rest is up to my proper or improper selection of bullet to match the game. Even that is a no-brainers with the 120 grain partition and the 100 grain TSX available in .257 cal.


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Originally Posted by David_Walter
So, I practice two weekends a month at the local range, and I build confidence in my ability to hit at 200-500 yards.



David, this kind of caught my eye and I gotta ask, this was said pretty much TIC right? Point being you do practice more than this don't you?

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I would like to know - IN ALL HONESTY -

How many men with a family that have a minimum 40hr work week make it to the range more than 24 times a year?

I bet not many......


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My boys love to shoot (thank God), so I go as often as I can.

Averages out to twice a month,

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Thx for the correction dave, my bad...need more diet dew and oj this morn. I had it in my head that he said 2 weekends for one month (as in only one month) a year...

Sorry for the cofusion

Dober

(side note, I do get out to the one of my ranges more than 24 x's a year and I normally work 50-60 a week.

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My dad helped teach me how hunt & shoot & learn how to effectively put game on the ground. Know your rifle & your abilty to effectivly use it. That said, I'd not hesitate to hunt any critter that walks the North American continent with a .257 via TSX...even Ursus Horribilus...Is it the best or even a GOOD choice? Nope...Is a 300 wby a better choice??? Yep....338 WM even better....point is, as Clint Eastwood often says...a man's gotta know his limitations...

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It's never about limitation's it's experience.

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Experience & skill=Limitations

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Experience=Limitations


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