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A total of 3 men have suffered extensive injury from the Mossberg 100 ATR (which is a bolt action rifle). The assembly pin (sometimes referred to as the bolt head pin or retaining pin) is breaking. The gun will then fire when the locking lugs are not locked causing the gun to blow a user's face off. This happened to two of the men --and both were airlifted to a local trauma center, and the third has injuries to his hand. I am set for trial in April in Tampa Florida. Any information/input would be welcomed. Over the last two years I have learned alot but am always trying to understand all this a little better.
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I seriously doubt anyone here would help you gut a great old American gun manufacturer.
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Usually attorneys are better at asking questions.
Is there a question in that post?
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Use the Search function and IIRC you will find what you are seeking.
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If true, a bolt flying back into your face is a real joke...well worth "saving" Mossberg from attack.... I can't help but wonder about the fact that we rail against a manufacturer because a rifle won't shoot a 1/2" group; but if they peddle a defective design that kills or maims,.....well,that's OK(?)Pretty funny...
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If true, a bolt flying back into your face is a real joke...well worth "saving" Mossberg from attack.... I can't help but wonder about the fact that we rail against a manufacturer because a rifle won't shoot a 1/2" group; but if they peddle a defective design that kills or maims,.....well,that's OK(?)Pretty funny... I guess you are a closet bottom feeder. I'm not defending the poorly conceived rifle. It shouldn't be defended if it does that. I DO take great exception that a bottom feeder would come to a Gun Forum and ask us to help him hammer yet another AMERICAN firearms maker. Not "Pretty Funny", but pretty sad and nervy.
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Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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I hurt from just looking at an ATR, I can't imagine shooting one.
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If you or a loved one have been injured by a Mossberg, you are entitled to a large settlement.
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Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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For a number of reasons I do not consider Mossberg a company worth protecting. I refuse to have anything to do with them and will not order them for folks under any circumstances. Unresponsive and reckless would be two fair descriptions of their business policy...
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One has to ask how the pin gets broken. Overloaded handloads could cause sticking. Not very long ago a guy was opening a "stiff bolt" by putting the butt on the ground and stompin with his boot. More background is needed before we make judgement. Good luck!
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If Mossberg put out a defective product as bad as what it may appear that they have (at least one case has a fellow catching the bolt in the face at the first trip to the range, using proper factory ammo, less than 10 rounds fired), then they should be "gutted".
If not, then that'll come out in court.
My guess will be for settlement.
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If true, a bolt flying back into your face is a real joke...well worth "saving" Mossberg from attack.... I can't help but wonder about the fact that we rail against a manufacturer because a rifle won't shoot a 1/2" group; but if they peddle a defective design that kills or maims,.....well,that's OK(?)Pretty funny... I guess you are a closet bottom feeder. I'm not defending the poorly conceived rifle. It shouldn't be defended if it does that. I DO take great exception that a bottom feeder would come to a Gun Forum and ask us to help him hammer yet another AMERICAN firearms maker. Not "Pretty Funny", but pretty sad and nervy. What is really sad is that there are several fools on here that are playing right into his hand.
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Mossberg makes some of the finest "heavy duty" canoe paddles in the world,some of them will even shoot occasionally.
I don't know about thier rifles, but if I had to choose between a Mossberg shot gun and a sharpened stick for hunting,based on my experiance with Mossberg shotguns I would get my pocket knife and an oak branch.
thats just my .02 and thats exactly what it's worth
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While I'm not suggesting what a lawyer might say is not exactly true..having spent the last 35 years in the company of em'...I want to see real evidence to support his allegation ..something more than some so called expert!
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If true, a bolt flying back into your face is a real joke...well worth "saving" Mossberg from attack.... I can't help but wonder about the fact that we rail against a manufacturer because a rifle won't shoot a 1/2" group; but if they peddle a defective design that kills or maims,.....well,that's OK(?)Pretty funny... I'm with friend Bob on this one.....100% Concur.
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My Brother in Law just bought one of the damned things,he did not consult me first.
I am not a great fan of the tort system when used to punish buisness for honnest mistakes in order to enrich trial lawyers,but it appears there are legit safety and/or quality control issues here.
I'll tell you what I know,PM me your phone number and we'll talk.
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Is this the medical term you plan on using in your trial?
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Stuff like this is exactly what the tort system was designed to correct. Otherwise, Mossberg might decide that one or two severe injuries a year was lower in cost that spending an extra 50 cents on a stronger pen in 50,000 rifles per year. Sort of like Remington did with that trigger they knew was defective in 1 percent of their rifles.
I stiff judgment or two against Mossberg will change the cost/benefit analysis for them and give them incentive to make the change in design. It is the free market at work.
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Somehow I think there are probably ways for a real lawyer to find this information besides entering a poorly worded run-on sentence on an internet gun forum.
Would any of our testimony hold up in court? C'mon. "The guy with the Joker avatar says: Mossbergs suck!! lmao! you just got PWN3D!!"
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