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What happened to that one dude that ran him mouth all over the place?
It�s a magazine not a clip......
Advice is seldom welcome, and those who need it the most, like it the least.�
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No matter which of the two won the election, both were going to be stuck in a schitty situation and most likely do a schitty job at fixing it. On the major issues, as Jeff stated, we'd get more or less the same deal. The thing that no one wants to admit, he's actually right.
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I voted for Obama. No, I'm not "a liberal".
Nope, you're just an idiot.
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No, more like the Phantom $hitter". Leaves a big steaming turd, and leaves so as not to take the heat.
If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks..., will deprive the People of all their Property,...Thomas Jefferson
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I voted for Obama. No, I'm not "a liberal". He was the better of the two tickets and not by a little.
If you are a social conservative or single issue voter (guns, abortion, etc), then you will disagree with me, perhaps violently <g>. I'm not a single-issue voter. I voted for who I thought was the better candidate for the times, overall. McCain is a good man but he's old, rigid if not calicified mentally, and didn't give the impression that he even wanted to win- especially at the end there. His decision making is suspect, as witnessed by choosing Palin for... for... uh... her gender and rabid social conservatism, maybe? Maybe? Not much else there.
Obama is doing fine so far, not that there's much "good" to be done. He's interfacing with Congress, listening, and trying to project calm (which McCain was TERRIBLE at). Let's face it- he's [bleep] just like McCain would have been. The economy is a MESS and it's not his doing, and there's no magic wand to wave to fix it. Let us not forget who our fearless leader was for the 8 years prior, and who gave away a trillion dollars to THE WRONG PEOPLE (if there even are "right people" for such stupidity) on his way out the door.
You want to tell me that Republicans are fiscal conservatives, warn me first so I don't blow beer out my nose, OK?
If McCain had won, we'd be going down the same path we are going down now- right? Can we all admit that? We'd all be complaining about the stupid McCain economic stimulus package. he'd be drawing down the war in Iraq over the next 4 years. The rhetoric might be different, but the results would be more or less the same.
As to Obama partying in college... give me a BREAK... who DIDN'T!? George W. Bush snorted coke, smoked pot, and drank like a fish... yet we all voted for HIM.
I know posting this won't endear me to some of you. Oh well. Hopefully you'll at least have some respect for the fact that I ain't gonna lie to you or pretend to be something I'm not. I'm a hippie redneck <g>, live out in the woods, got my guns and trucks and chain saws, but I also got my guitars, mountain bikes, and skiis...damned if I will close my mind and just swallow what the RNC or DNC is putting out. I'll use my own head and decide on the candidates on a case-by-case basis.
Respectfully,
-jeff
I would like to challenge you on that. I didn't vote Obama and challenge your assertion that I am a single issue voter. He will go for increasing the cost of owning a handgun, restrict guns and ammo, not a doubt in my mind. He will and has been using the economy as a way to strengthen liberal ideals and dependence of government and increase government spending.. He will increase funding for abortion and lessen any restrictions. He will weaken out national security by cowering to the ACLU and other liberals who feel detainees should have the same rights as U.S citizens. We will NOT see any steps towards drilling oil and lessening our dependencies on foreign oil, instead we will dump millions if not billions in to technology that will not make a difference in the short run, and maybe will not pan out at all in the long run. It will be money spent on experimentation on pet projects that won't pan out, money that the private sector should be spending on new products. He will dump millions into Global Warming, millions that will vanish into thin air, or go to liberal think tanks and liberal programs in the name of Global Warming. Obama will increase the power and influence that the United Nations has over this country and her funds. Now I won't tally illegal imigration against Obama, becasue on that I agree, McCain would have been just as bad, neither will do a damn thing about it. I could go on, but I'll let you catch up, where am I wrong, how does that make me a single issue voter? We may not agree with each too much around here Mr. Barkoff, but as far as this post goes I say Hoorah........... Nice job!
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People who voted for Obammy were hoping for a handout. Pure and simple. He sure has insituted change hasn't he? His cabinet is mostly Clinton era employees. Change my ass! The guy is a lying wastoid!
Les where is that video clip?
Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.
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So you voted for a Marxist who believes in income redistribution, moronic global warming, abortion on demand, homos in the military, total confiscation of civilian firearms, appeasement with terrorists and a grand total of 143 days as an active senator. Not going to call you an idiot, but thanks a whole pantload ace...jorge
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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No matter which of the two won the election, both were going to be stuck in a schitty situation and most likely do a schitty job at fixing it. On the major issues, as Jeff stated, we'd get more or less the same deal. The thing that no one wants to admit, he's actually right. Hardly. McCain wouldn't be setting up the census under the WH so as to gerrymander congressional districts. McCain wouldn't be cheerleading a $800 billion dollar pork sandwich with 90% payoffs to special interests and 10% to stimulus. McCain wouldn't have picked an AG who is so anti-gun he makes Reno look conservative. McCain wouldn't be getting ready to fill Ginsburg's seat with a communist. Neither would have been perfect for the current economic situation, but what some of you less than enlightened individuals don't yet realize, Obama is focused on changing the country in a manner that if successful, you will wake up one morning asking WTF did I do?
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So you voted for a Marxist who believes in income redistribution, moronic global warming, abortion on demand, homos in the military, total confiscation of civilian firearms, appeasement with terrorists and a grand total of 143 days as an active senator.
,...with big ears.
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You and trashely judd should hook up......you both need help! Thanks a lot to people like you who voted the libiot in! NOT! Remember what you did in 4 years and try not to make the same mistake again! It costs us all...... not just you!
Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.
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we'd get more or less the same deal. The thing that no one wants to admit, he's actually right. Are you talking about the economy or over all? You believe McCain would have been the same on gun control, abortion, the United Nations, and terrorism, and drilling for oil? No, I won't admit Jeff was right, with all do respect.
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McCain could have slept the first 3 weeks and we'd be better off than all that Skippy has done to this point.
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On the major issues, as Jeff stated, we'd get more or less the same deal. The thing that no one wants to admit, he's actually right. *clink* to one of my very observant PA boys. Hell, I can't tell the difference between any of them anymore. All I hear are screeching voices promising me how great they'll make things only to watch all of them diminish my rights and take more of my money to pay for things I do not want. Get rid of all the politicians and we might get somewhere.
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And he put that horrible, wretched Hillary in a position where she will get additional attention and coverage that will infuriate me every time I am forced to see her.
And that, is an unpardonable sin against all humanity. He will burn in the deepest, darkest pits of Hell for that.
Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.
*Marvin Simkin* L.A. Times (1992)
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I voted for Obama. No, I'm not "a liberal".
Nope, you're just an idiot. No doubt about that.
"I Birn Quhil I Se" MacLeod of Lewis
I Burn While I See
Hold Fast MacLeod of Harris
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You believe McCain would have been the same on gun control, abortion, the United Nations, and terrorism, and drilling for oil?
Maybe not abortion, which I could care less about, but on everything else I think the differences would have been so negligible that it would be hard to see the difference. What were McCain's stances on gun control, illegals and bailouts for banks?
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You believe McCain would have been the same on gun control, abortion, the United Nations, and terrorism, and drilling for oil?
Maybe not abortion, which I could care less about, but on everything else I think the differences would have been so negligible that it would be hard to see the difference. What were McCain's stances on gun control, illegals and bailouts for banks? Considering Obama cared enough about gun control to put it on his campaign website and now on his .Gov website, I'd say gun control is a lot more on his mind than McCain's. Considering Pennsylvania's anti-gun Governor, I guess we can assume such things aren't as important to PA boys.
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You believe McCain would have been the same on gun control, abortion, the United Nations, and terrorism, and drilling for oil?
Maybe not abortion, which I could care less about, but on everything else I think the differences would have been so negligible that it would be hard to see the difference. What were McCain's stances on gun control, illegals and bailouts for banks? �The whole point, Mr. President, is to enact tax cuts and spending measures that truly stimulate the economy,� McCain said. �There are billions and tens of billions of dollars in this bill which will have no effect within three, four, five or more years, or ever. Or ever.�
The way I see it, one is pushing for, the other against.
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We will see in two years how much support the liberals have. I am thinking they will be makeing a lot of promises to continue unemployment bennies if reelected, but that is after none of the many promises that were made have been kept. But some people are stupid enough to keep on beleiving lies.
Declaration of Independance, in ENGLISH
U.S. Constitution, in ENGLISH
U.S. Bill of Rights, in ENGLISH
If you cannot or don't want to learn ENGLISH, go back to the third world cesspool you came from
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Yes, no difference. McCain was tortured by the "Progressives" in Viet Nam. Not waterboarding , but broken bones and beatings. That is OK since progressives, terrorists, crimminals, etc are the victims of society. If someone takes action to stop the evil they are accused of being intolerant against a wronged group.
On the other hand, Obama is a self admitted progressive that attended Socialist Party meetings and sought out the Marxist professors in college as stated in his books. He sides with the mass murdering dictators and against the founding principles of USA. Obama seems to want all citizens to be subjigated to the state. That is slavery for all except the ruling class.
No, not much difference at all!
Osama and Obama both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.
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