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404 Jefferys finished #2803059 02/10/09
Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 6,954 Filer, Idaho, USA A atkinsonhunting OP Campfire Tracker
OP atkinsonhunting Campfire Tracker A Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 6,954 Filer, Idaho, USA	I just finished my 404 Jefferys. It is built on a full size Magnum Mauser action (Vector from Searcy), has a quarter rib with a Wisner screw adjustment shallow V adjustable rear sight inserter in the quarter rib (super neat)...barrel band swivel, barrel band front sight with 3/32 bead. drop box, 25" Lothar Walthar barrel, beautiful Russian Circassian walnut from Bill Dowtins Old World Walnut. checkered 26 LPI with mullered borders, black recoil pad (may leather cover it). Engraved and antiqued grey cross bolts. I have been wanting to build the ultimate 404 for some years and that really requires a full magnum action according to some and I think that may be right after building a number of them on std. actions, and never quite satisfied..but then several folks have said it should have been a 505 with that action, oh well, maybe at some point I will make it a switch barrel 50 cal on the 404 case or something like that. My camera went South, bad battery and no battery in Idaho, of course, so Sears ordered me one that will be here in about a week. I can send pictures to interested parties..I don't know if I will sell it or keep it. Thats something I never know! I am the ultimate 404 Jefferys fan, mostly nostalgia, I admit. Ray Atkinson www.atkinsonhunting.com [email protected] 208-326-4120

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Re: 404 Jefferys finished atkinsonhunting #2803540 02/10/09
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 461 M mopaneMike Campfire Member
mopaneMike Campfire Member M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 461	COOL! Ray, I can't wait to see her.. I've been searching for a classic 404 Jeff for a couple of years, just can't seem to find one that suit's me.. I'm about to pull the pin on having one built on a CZ action.. Don't know why... My Roger Ferall CZ 458Lott is my go to buff rifle.. The 404 Jeff just calls me and seems to be an itch I need to scratch.. Keep the faith Ray.. I for one sure miss you on AR MM

Re: 404 Jefferys finished mopaneMike #2803647 02/10/09
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 21,828 Likes: 3 Alvadore, Oregon B BMT Campfire Ranger
BMT Campfire Ranger B Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 21,828 Likes: 3 Alvadore, Oregon	NO PICTURES!!!!!! Bad Atkinson, no donut . . . . . BMT "The Church can and should help modern society by tirelessly insisting that the work of women in the home be recognized and respected by all in its irreplaceable value." Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II

Re: 404 Jefferys finished BMT #2803744 02/10/09
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,293 home in OR! KDK Campfire Tracker
KDK Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,293 home in OR!	Yeah, I'm interested in pics also. I see that CZ/Safari Classics offer a .404 now. Looks interesting, but a little too rich for my blood, not to mention pocketbook. Originally Posted by ingwe This is a shooting forum, there is no place here for logic.

Re: 404 Jefferys finished KDK #2803825 02/10/09
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,704 Ketchikan, AK, USA muledeer Campfire Outfitter
muledeer Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,704 Ketchikan, AK, USA	CZ has had a .404 for several years -- I bought one in 2005 and took it to Africa in 2006. It is unfortunate that they only offer the .404 in the Safari Classic, since the regular Safari Magnum version, in .375 H&H, .416 Rigby and .458 Win, is about a third the price of the "Classic" version. Mine shoots very well, but I think it is about three inches too long and about two pounds too heavy. If I had it to do over, I would spend the money building one the way I want it. Dennis "The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets." "If you're asking me something technical, you may be looking for My Other Brother Darrell." "It ain't foot-pounds that kills stuff -- it's broken body parts."

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Re: 404 Jefferys finished BMT #2804632 02/10/09
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,381 Kugluktuk, Nunavut B BigUglyMan Campfire Regular
BigUglyMan Campfire Regular B Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,381 Kugluktuk, Nunavut	Originally Posted by BMT NO PICTURES!!!!!! Bad Atkinson, no donut . . . . . BMT I was thinking that myself! "This duty fell upon me and was the worst job I ever had in my life. I have known men I would rather shoot than the worst of dogs." Frank Wild Second in Command Endurance 1914-1916

Re: 404 Jefferys finished BMT #2805736 02/11/09
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,720 Weatherford, TX sactoller Campfire Outfitter
sactoller Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,720 Weatherford, TX	Can't wait to see it Ray! MM, I can get you a CZ550 in .404 new, one of my distributors still has a couple. Official member of "The Clan of Turd-like People"

Re: 404 Jefferys finished sactoller #2806936 02/11/09
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,836 Cheyenne, Wyoming WyoJoe Campfire Regular
WyoJoe Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,836 Cheyenne, Wyoming	Looking forward to seeing it. There comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor polite, nor popular -- but one must ask, "Is it right?" Martin Luther King, Jr.

Re: 404 Jefferys finished WyoJoe #2807560 02/11/09
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 178 Alberta, Canada cmfic1 Campfire Member
cmfic1 Campfire Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 178 Alberta, Canada	Cant wait to see it Ray Why do you not post on AR no more?

Re: 404 Jefferys finished WyoJoe #2807564 02/11/09
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,127 Likes: 1 S SLDUCK Campfire Regular
SLDUCK Campfire Regular S Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,127 Likes: 1	I have a Remington Model 30 Express that just sits and thought about something new and a 404 Jeff. maybe some photos would inspire me to get on with it. Ray you said the 404 requires a full mag action. Why?

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Re: 404 Jefferys finished SLDUCK #2809682 02/12/09
Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 6,954 Filer, Idaho, USA A atkinsonhunting OP Campfire Tracker
OP atkinsonhunting Campfire Tracker A Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 6,954 Filer, Idaho, USA	Send me your email addresses and I will send you pictures, I have some now.. Being computer ig I can't post them and too old and tired to learn anything new these days! I can send them to your email, I got that far and quit...The posting pictures blew me away, gave me chillbains and I felt gilflurted after trying to cipher the directions in a foriegn tongue best I could figgure! BTW shot some 3 shot groups and they average 1.5 or a little less at 100 yards with irons..not too shabby. My load of 93 grs. of IMR-4831 is substantial in recoil and 95 grs was just plumb grim! Ray Atkinson www.atkinsonhunting.com [email protected] 208-326-4120

Re: 404 Jefferys finished atkinsonhunting #2809707 02/12/09
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,720 now in SC rifle Campfire Tracker
rifle Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,720 now in SC	Here's one...1924 Mauser A-type Last edited by rifle; 02/13/09. Come on America, Athletes and actors are not heroes, only soldiers, airmen,marines and sailors get that respect�and let's add firemen and LEO's

Re: 404 Jefferys finished rifle #2810193 02/12/09
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana rattler Campfire Ranger
rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana	Ray, if yah want you can email them to rattler_mtyahoo.com and ill host them in my photobucket account and post them for yah, to get these guys off your back and all A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books

Re: 404 Jefferys finished rattler #2810767 02/13/09
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 20,494 South Central Manitoba T the_shootist Campfire Ranger
the_shootist Campfire Ranger T Joined: May 2003 Posts: 20,494 South Central Manitoba	Sure, and we'll send donuts. "Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life." (Prov 4:23) Brother Keith

Re: 404 Jefferys finished the_shootist #2810976 02/13/09
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana rattler Campfire Ranger
rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana	here they are [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...tos/404JefferysMagnumMauserAction007.jpg[/img] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...tos/404JefferysMagnumMauserAction008.jpg[/img] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...tos/404JefferysMagnumMauserAction009.jpg[/img] A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books

Re: 404 Jefferys finished rattler #2811755 02/13/09
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,293 home in OR! KDK Campfire Tracker
KDK Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,293 home in OR!	Good lokin' shooter, Ray. You know it's good sharp checkering when it picks up fibers from the gun case! Last edited by KDK; 02/13/09. Reason: fat fingers Originally Posted by ingwe This is a shooting forum, there is no place here for logic.

Re: 404 Jefferys finished KDK #2811869 02/13/09
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,704 Ketchikan, AK, USA muledeer Campfire Outfitter
muledeer Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,704 Ketchikan, AK, USA	Very very nice, in every way and every feature! Dennis "The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets." "If you're asking me something technical, you may be looking for My Other Brother Darrell." "It ain't foot-pounds that kills stuff -- it's broken body parts."

Re: 404 Jefferys finished muledeer #2812030 02/13/09
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,921 Alaska B bearstalker Campfire Outfitter
bearstalker Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,921 Alaska	I like it a lot! What's the point of the quarter rib? Curious.

Re: 404 Jefferys finished bearstalker #2812082 02/13/09
Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 6,954 Filer, Idaho, USA A atkinsonhunting OP Campfire Tracker
OP atkinsonhunting Campfire Tracker A Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 6,954 Filer, Idaho, USA	Bearstalker, Good question, I guess quarter ribs are more traditional than anything else. I know they are stonger and less likely to damage. The flat plane is supposed to give you a quicker sight picture..The only thing I am sure of is they are bloody expensive to have installed and they add a lot of monitary value to an African style or any true big bore rifle.. This is the only quarter rib sight I have ever seen that has full windage and horizontal adjustment...I did this by using one of Jim Wisners shallow V Island sights and removing the sight from his island base and having the dovetail cut in the quarter rib at the same an angle as Jim's base. ..I really like the idea of having an adjustable quarter rib as it gives you the ability to change loads... Last edited by atkinson; 02/13/09. Ray Atkinson www.atkinsonhunting.com [email protected] 208-326-4120

Re: 404 Jefferys finished atkinsonhunting #2812109 02/13/09
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,720 now in SC rifle Campfire Tracker
rifle Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,720 now in SC	That's slick..the bolt appears to be far enough from the stock to work when needed quickly,yet does not protrude to far out to get in the way.Interesting to see how the sight works out,looks like the old p64 .458 African........nice rifle Come on America, Athletes and actors are not heroes, only soldiers, airmen,marines and sailors get that respect�and let's add firemen and LEO's

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