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Just wondering on my first post if any one has tried a Custom Rifle based on a Turk action? my rifle is in the original cal. 8x57JS. Ex GI. and like these cals. It has 26" tube, Timney trigger, Sporterized CZ24 stock. Turned out to be a pretty pc. of 75 year old CZ walnut with figure tip to butt. Shoots 1 in groups with Speer 150 spitzer at 2975 fps. Hope to use it on Elk this fall. any with experience with this load or rifle or you have a better suggestion for this cal.
Thanks.
JC

This one wasn't built on a Turk but rather a Czech made Persian 98.

Here in Sweden are the 196gr bullets the most popular choice for moose in the 8x57IS. Normas 196gr Oryx have earned a good reputation.

If I was going to hunt elk with a 8x57IS I would choose bullets like the 196gr Oryx, 200gr Partition or 200gr Barnes XLC. The 220gr bullets like Brenneke TOG and Woodleigh would probably be great medicine too.

I`ve a 1909 Argintine I built a 8mm06AI on. Love the cal. You are getting some good velocity with the 150`s.. I used 175 Sierra Pro-Hunters two years ago on a Bull. These are pushed to 2980fps. I would reccomend this bullet over the 150`s. I know you won`t get this performance from your 8x57. but this bullet holds together and penitrates well. I recovered mine on the off shoulder just beneath the skin. Jacket and core were still together. I`m going to use the same load this year, should we get the draw.
I`ve also had very good luck with 180 Nos. bal. tips. I think you can get beter performance, velocities, etc in this weight range, than going to heaver bullets. In particullar if shots are 300 yrds. or longer.

Don't mean to hijack Jesse's thread but sense the subjec of a mauser was brought up i was wondering if some one could tell me what type of mauser action this is.






Thanks Scott

Jamt,

Do you know if Norma ever made their Vulcan Bullet in 150-160 grain in the 8X57?

About 20 years ago (when I was 10) my dad, cousin and uncle all had custom 8mm Mausers that my uncle reloaded for. My dad and uncle used the 170 grain round noses but one year my cousin came to town with a bullet that looks very similar to the Norma Vulcan. From what I remember it was much lighter than 196 but it's been a very long time so I could be wrong.

I'm interested in the Vulcan and Oryx style bullets for 6.5 but I prefer much lighter bullets for the caliber (120-130) than what they offer.

It's either a Model 1917 US Enfield .30-06 made by either Winchester, Remington, or Eddystone Arsenal or it's a Patten 14 British Enfield in .303 British caliber.

Beautiful Rifle for sure. I just found out today that same time next week my semi-custom will be done. It sure will be nice to develop a stout load for Elk.
JesseC

Oklahoma, what do you have planned for that Enfield? they are one of my favotite actions as long as the havent been converted to cock on opening. i am having my first custom rifle built on one in 338-06. they and the japanese Arisaka are some of the strongest bolt actions ever built.

Rattler

Jamt,
I agree with your suggestion on ammo for Elk here in New Mexico. I have a real good chance for a 400 class bull and I want to nail hime to the ground with one shot. I am going to give the oryx by Norma a try, plus develop a load for the 200gr Nosler and finally see if my ole gun will shoot the X-bullet. Which ever one shoots the best will be the one I'll use. Spent 12 years in Europe with the USAF a few moons ago. 54 in May with a new rt knee to follow in June. I hate football!
Thanks for your advise. JesseC

Oklahoma,

It appears to be a 1917 but I couldn't help but think that it could be a Remington Model 30 Express.

Model 30 Express

Description:
Bolt Action Rifle
Introduction Year:
1926

Year Discontinued:
1940

Total Production:
Approximately: 22,800

Designer/Inventor:
C.H. Barnes, C.C. Loomis

Action Type:
Bolt Action

Caliber/Gauge:
.30-06 Springfield, .25 Rem, .30 Rem, .32 Rem, .35 Rem, 7mm Mauser, .257 Rem-Roberts

Serial Number Blocks:
Starting: 00001
Ending: 30560

Grades Offered:
30 Express
30S Special
30SL Special
30SR Redfield sight
30SX
30SM Marble-Glass Receiver Sight

Variations:
Model 30R Carbine

Yepp they had a 165 grains Vulcan bullet. Factory ammo was loaded to give Vo 870m/s (=2855fps).

F15Beeper!! That is a Nice looking rifle!!! What stock is that? and who painted it? I'm impressed and slathering. I just picked up a Mark X 270 with a 20 inch barrel and want to re-stock it. My rifle has been parkerized and would go well in that stock. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Tanker,

It's a Borden Rimrock Stock (www.rimrockstocks.com). The camo finish is molded in not painted. Their Mauser stocks aren't exactly drop in. Unless something has changed they will send a blank with the camo pattern you want molded in. It'll be kind of rough looking with seams etc. You (or your smith) do the final fitting and bedding then send it back to them. They will do the final finish and when you get it back it will look good. They're actually pretty fast so the process only takes a few weeks. I've got two and couldn't be happier with them. The metal finsih on the rifle in the picture is Birdsong's Black T but any matte black finish should look real nice. Sounds like you got the makings for a nice rig.

By the way no one that I know of offers a "Drop In" for a Mauser. Bell and Carson advertises one but I'm not too crazy about there product. Every one else seems to have one inlet pattern to cover the Mark X's and all the large ring Mausers. Most either want you to send the barreled action to them or do the process I mentioned in the above post.

F15Beeper

Thanks for the reply. I can do the fit and bedding myself but I was unaware you would need to send it back for final finishing. Sounds like pretty good customer service on their part considering the logistics of shipping out, then returning and shipping out again. Sounds like they want the final product to be right. What kind of $$ are we talking about for the finished product? I was looking at going with a Bansner High Tech but this may change my mind. Of course I'm agonizing over what to do about the caliber. I'm considering having it rebored to 30-06, which is boring, but my favorite caliber, or 338-06 which I've kinda always wanted and combined with what I paid for the rifle, would make a pretty low dollar custom 338-06. Oh decisions, decisions. But Ain't It Fun? Well I'm rambling so gotta go. Thanks again and nice rifle. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I think if you fit and bed it yourself it'll cost you in the low $300's. (I'm guessing so don't hold me to that.) The rifle in the picture is a 338-06 AI. Drop those guys an email or call them and they'll send you a brochure with prices in it.