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Originally Posted by nickelstick
How many does the Ruger hold in the mag, the 85 Kodiak holds 4 in the mag.
.......SO WHAT!!!....One less round in the magazine of a 375 Ruger, won`t affect the final outcome,,REGARDLESS,,of what animal I`m hunting......

Keep going, you`re doing good! What`s next???


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Well, it might very well effect the outcome. You seem a little over excitable(read as shoot much, miss much). It seems like like the "what you want to afford" may very well be accurate, You admitted The Ruger is no Sako, yet you settled. I knew what I wanted and after I grind down (or replace with a matching screw) the silly sling swivel on the stock, replace the crappy sako recoil pad....It will be what I want....and bought. You on the other hand will still have "your" choice. I admitt I spent like a "demycrat" to get here.

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"check mated"? You trying to put the moves on me now? Funny we just met! i suppose you get frustrated and that becomes your answer smile

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You stated "While the action of the Sako Kodiak is quite smooth (granted),18 months ago, I paid $821 for my uglier, my Alaskan`s M77 action smoothness, isn`t reeeeally too far behind the Sako " No you didn't slam Sako you slammed...you know that other one. But you still insist, I over paid? Coupled with Gauranteed accuracy equal or better than your handloads, More rounds in the mag..and well it's a SAKO 85 KODIAK! I see why your upset. I understand, you couldn't "afford" it at the time.

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Originally Posted by nickelstick
Well, it might very well effect the outcome. You seem a little over excitable(read as shoot much, miss much). It seems like like the "what you want to afford" may very well be accurate, You admitted The Ruger is no Sako, yet you settled. I knew what I wanted and after I grind down (or replace with a matching screw) the silly sling swivel on the stock, replace the crappy sako recoil pad....It will be what I want....and bought. You on the other hand will still have "your" choice. I admitt I spent like a "demycrat" to get here.
......Excitable? Not at all! Let`s just say I`m a little confrontational and challenging to someone like you, when I need to be.

4 rounds combined in the chamber and magazine as opposed to 5 rounds, like I said, won`t make any difference to me and won`t affect my hunting outcome.

You on the other hand, may need ALL 5 rounds in your H&Hs magazine and chamber for kills on your hunts????? HA HA!! 4 rounds of 375 H&H not enough for ya? Doesn`t say too much for you, now does it?

I don`t think of buying my Ruger Alaskan as just "settling" as you might want to think. I know you`d like to think that though!
I buy things because I like them, not necessarily based on what the price tag is whether lower or higher.

NO! You didn`t spend like democrat, because you got what you wanted. On the other hand and based on your responses to me, (or lack of any content), there is a good chance that you think and act like one though!!! A "demycrat" that is!!!

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Originally Posted by nickelstick
"check mated"? You trying to put the moves on me now? Funny we just met! i suppose you get frustrated and that becomes your answer smile
......Putting moves on you? Wishful thinking pal!


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If there is a Zombie uprising I admit it is possible I could miss a few. It's kinda cool, we have such wonderful weapons and calibers we (read you)have to resort to mindless babble.
Either way if any rhinos go beserk in Anaheim or Bemidji(my home) we would mop up. If 5 got loose I just wouldn't need to reload smile....unless I pooched a shot or two (stranger things have happened)

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Originally Posted by nickelstick
You stated "While the action of the Sako Kodiak is quite smooth (granted),18 months ago, I paid $821 for my uglier, my Alaskan`s M77 action smoothness, isn`t reeeeally too far behind the Sako " No you didn't slam Sako you slammed...you know that other one. But you still insist, I over paid? Coupled with Gauranteed accuracy equal or better than your handloads, More rounds in the mag..and well it's a SAKO 85 KODIAK! I see why your upset. I understand, you couldn't "afford" it at the time.
......Ya know! You`re a real bonehead, who obviously cannot comprehend properly or discern what he reads and then assumes way tooooo much in the process.

You are associating my opinion, that the Sako isn`t worth twice the price of the Ruger, along WITH your thinking that I`m somehow slamming you because you paid too much for your Sako??

I`m not insisting you overpaid and never insisted YOU overpaid. Where`s that quote in this thread where I stated that??? I am of the opinion that the Sako, is not worth twice the price or possibly even more! PERIOD! Take YOU out of the equation!

Oh BTW! When I did buy my Alaskan, I could more than afford it then too!!......Nice try!

Also, my guarantee in accuracy or assurance of accuracy, comes alot more from my reloads, rather than from any factory guarantee. Results are what matter, regardless of any factory guarantee!!!....Nice try there too!

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Originally Posted by nickelstick
If there is a Zombie uprising I admit it is possible I could miss a few. It's kinda cool, we have such wonderful weapons and calibers we (read you)have to resort to mindless babble.
Either way if any rhinos go beserk in Anaheim or Bemidji(my home) we would mop up. If 5 got loose I just wouldn't need to reload smile....unless I pooched a shot or two (stranger things have happened)
.......You`re calling my posts mindless babble???? I think you need to re-read all your posts!!

Oh! And if and when there is a Zombie attack or the rhinos go beserk here in Anaheim, you`ll be the first to know!!!

In the meantime, I guess I`ll have to be content with my 4 .375 Ruger rounds in the magazine and chamber, contained in my sub-par Ruger Alaskan rifle for just such an event, should the zombies and rhinos attack. wink wink wink wink wink


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Nickelstick?????..........BTW! I think you need to remove the "nickel" portion from your user name and just call yourself "stick." You are certainly,,,, 5 cents short of a nickel!!!...........


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I did not call your posts mindless babble, thats how you read it:) Admittedly you followed directions.
Naw you read and reread them, checked them for spelling etc already...I'll trust your diagnosis of me.
p.s I never said the beserk Rhinos attacked, you assumed that also(You seem to do that more lately). Why did you call your rifle "sub-par"? Wishing you could afford a fine rifle like a SAKO?

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Originally Posted by nickelstick
I did not call your posts mindless babble, thats how you read it:) Admittedly you followed directions.
Naw you read and reread them, checked them for spelling etc already...I'll trust your diagnosis of me.
p.s I never said the beserk Rhinos attacked, you assumed that also(You seem to do that more lately). Why did you call your rifle "sub-par"? Wishing you could afford a fine rifle like a SAKO?
..........Yep! You`re right!....Ya know what! I`m gonna rush out the door (tomorrow) and go find a Sako Kodiak and trade in my Ruger Alaskan!!!

I REALLY need that smaller 1/8" group accuracy at 100 yards plus that extra round in the magazine for when the zombies and rhinos attack.

That`s something that the Ruger Alaskan just won`t give me! Thank you so much for bringing these things to my attention!

Now, I`ll sleep much better knowing that I`ll be much safer with the Kodiak`s extra round in the magazine while being a little more accurate too.

You`re a real god-send, who has given me a totally new perspective on things!..... grin grin grin...Can`t thank ya enough!


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You have called me laugher, joke, sir, bonehead, Godsend, stick(that was funny),democrat, 5cents short of a nickle, and a babbler while all I called you was a whiner. Now you are thankful and peace shall be returned to the people!
I'd take that ruger off your hands, if I could afford it smile

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Originally Posted by nickelstick

I'd take that ruger off your hands, if I could afford it smile
..........The only person that will ever take my Ruger off my hands, should I decide to sell it, is someone who would appreciate it!.........


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[quote=nickelstick]You have called me laugher, joke, sir, bonehead, Godsend, stick(that was funny),democrat, 5cents short of a nickle quote].............All compliments!


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OK boys, off the playground. Ma's calln ya fer dinner.


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Oh! Dinner time already?..........Having some good entertaining debatin fun with Mr. Nickelsssssshtick!!!


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Originally Posted by bigsqueeze
Oh! Dinner time already?..........Having some good entertaining debatin fun with Mr. Nickelsssssshtick!!!


Haha, carry on! wink


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Originally Posted by bigsqueeze
Well! At least I had a good excuse for not realizing that they existed,,,,somewhere!

Regardless of who`s idea it originally was in chambering 375`s in shorter and handier rifles, the concept behind them is wonderful.

By introducing the Kodiak, perhaps the powers that be, who are at Sako today, saw what Ruger was and is successfully doing in the US market and decided to get in on the act themselves??......Highly likely!!!

I do believe that Sako in introducing their own .370 Sako cartridge, (in possibly thinking it could compete with the .375 Ruger; NO WAY),,,will flop big time! Rifle sales is the name of the game and the bottom line. IMO, the .370 Sako will never take off here in this country. It just might in Europe though!

If Sako wants more Kodiak rifle sales here in the US, they should just stay with chambering the popular cartridges including the .375 H&H, the 338 WM as they are apparently doing and also include the .375 Ruger.

370 Sako??? Forget about it Sako. It won`t fly!




I have a 370 Sako, with 22" bbl it weighs 7.25 pounds with a 6x42 leupold, holds 5 rounds in the magaxine and launches a 250gr bullet at 2750 fps. For this i sold my 375HH, 270gr bullet at 2700fps, 10.5lb rig with 24" bbl. In performance no animal will ever know the differance, but I do , I like short light powerful rifles/cartridges for real world hunting of big animals.To me its not so much about the cartridge ....its about the package for an intended purpose.

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Originally Posted by Furprick
Originally Posted by bigsqueeze
Well! At least I had a good excuse for not realizing that they existed,,,,somewhere!

Regardless of who`s idea it originally was in chambering 375`s in shorter and handier rifles, the concept behind them is wonderful.

By introducing the Kodiak, perhaps the powers that be, who are at Sako today, saw what Ruger was and is successfully doing in the US market and decided to get in on the act themselves??......Highly likely!!!

I do believe that Sako in introducing their own .370 Sako cartridge, (in possibly thinking it could compete with the .375 Ruger; NO WAY),,,will flop big time! Rifle sales is the name of the game and the bottom line. IMO, the .370 Sako will never take off here in this country. It just might in Europe though!

If Sako wants more Kodiak rifle sales here in the US, they should just stay with chambering the popular cartridges including the .375 H&H, the 338 WM as they are apparently doing and also include the .375 Ruger.

370 Sako??? Forget about it Sako. It won`t fly!




I have a 370 Sako, with 22" bbl it weighs 7.25 pounds with a 6x42 leupold, holds 5 rounds in the magaxine and launches a 250gr bullet at 2750 fps. For this i sold my 375HH, 270gr bullet at 2700fps, 10.5lb rig with 24" bbl. In performance no animal will ever know the differance, but I do , I like short light powerful rifles/cartridges for real world hunting of big animals.To me its not so much about the cartridge ....its about the package for an intended purpose.
........In agreement with ya there! It is about the rifles and maybe more so! What your 370 Sako does for you in the 22" tubed Kodiak, the 375 Ruger does for me with the 20" tubed Alaskan, such as launching a 225 gr Hornady at 3016 fps and 2808 fps with a 270 gr Hornady, with reloads of course. Shorter barrels, but great performers.

I just dont think and believe that in leiu of the popularity of the 375 H&H and the 375 Ruger, that the 370 Sako cartridge itself will survive or go over well here in the states. However, I may be proven wrong over time. The Sako Kodiak rifle will surely survive, but sales of these rifles will substantially increase by other and more popular chamberings. This is why Sako offers the 375 H&H and now the 338 Win Mag in the Kodiak.

The bottom line will be Sako Kodiak rifle sales #s. The way that will be done or increased is by chambering the already popular cartridges.

If the 370 Sako round grows in popularity during the process, then so be it and more power to it!


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