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According to this, you are only 14 lbs overweight! Barely worth mentioning.

http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

BMI calculator.

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Except my bones are small in diameter, so I need to weigh 10-15 lbs less that what a typical male does at my height and chest size.............

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Blaine:I know you have one or two 30/06 projects going on. FYI I did some chronograph stuff yesterday with the 30/06,a pre 64 M70 FW in Bansner stock.Load was 59 gr H4350-165 Nosler Partition and Sierra;both averaged about 2890+- over 8-10 shots.

This rifle shoots that load well.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Originally Posted by SU35
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The problem is that this advantage is small in the real world and massive in one's head


The real problem is that some think it's a problem.

It's not problem at all, it's an advantage, it's a hedge.



You are correct for the small percentage of people that can apply the virtues of the magnums.

The problem is that most people don't shoot enough to get competent with one and a large number of people will never be able to no matter how much they shoot. A lot of hunters truly believe their mags are exponentially better killers than a standard cartridge. It's no "hedge" having someone hunt with a magnum that scares them when it's much better to have a gun they can shoot well.



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I just sorted 50 cases of Lapua brass from my SS Classic Edge '06. I hope to make it to the range this weekend. Thinking of starting with H4350 with 168 TTSXs.

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Originally Posted by Blaine
I just sorted 50 cases of Lapua brass from my SS Classic Edge '06. I hope to make it to the range this weekend. Thinking of starting with H4350 with 168 TTSXs.


Good combo and you may have to look no further! smile




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The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I love Lapua brass!
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Tim,you are the "perfect" gun stuff consumer! smile




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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A friend of mine was party to the taking of a 10ft brown bear as a back up gunner. This took place about 4 years ago on kodiak Island during a road system hunt. The shooter was shooting a 338 , my buddy was shooting an 06. Bear was taken at about 30 yards, and as he described to me the showdown, the bear did not react any differently from the hits it recieved from the 338 WM or the 30-06 all of em were killing him. Bear had lots of holes in and out of him. I said to him ....did you wish you had a bigger gun, he said ....nah, just wish I could reload faster! Bear absorbed 8 shots between both guns at 30 yards and less as they moved in on it. To say that the 300 WM kills better than an 06 is just plain horse chit, having killed moose with both, the only thing a 300 does is give you a wee bit less distance estimating, but with todays bullets.....thats it.

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Originally Posted by BobinNH
I dunno know about any of this smile

The first elk I saw shot was hit with a 30/06 and factory 150 Power Points at about 350 yards;first shot too far back,and the elk trotted off a bit,clearly ill.Second shot was through the ribs behind the foreleg and his knees buckled.Game over.

Elk looked big to me.So when I started elk hunting I built a 300 Win Mag,a 300 Weatherby and 300 H&H;also a pacel of 338's;shot them all a lot and settled on 180 gr bullets at 3100-3200.This killed elk and a bunch of other stuff.At the range(and out to 600 yards), I noticed all the 300's shot flatter than everything else except the 7 Rem Mag.

So I used them all! grin

They all worked;sometimes they killed faster than the 30/06's I saw used and sometimes they did not if the shots were poorly placed. But properly placed hits from the 300's at distances out to 450 yards or so brought elk down like dynamited smokestacks;but elk hit with 7mags and good bullets behaved the same way.Ditto some I saw killed with 270's.

I never saw enough difference between 338's 340's and 300's to make me a "Keithian",and the 338's went south.

Here's what I have noticed and it's worth what you paid for it:

1)Bullet construction and placement get equal footing with me,and trump caliber,because a great bullet from a 30/06 will do what a lousy bullet from a 300 Win Mag will not.

2)Within reason,you should shoot what you shoot well,and have confidence in.

3)Some practiced shooters do better with less recoil,and recoil tolerance varies a great deal between individuals(see #2 above).But I have noticed that many people who are bums with 300's tend to be bums with everything,and they rarely get better with lighter recoiling rifles because they are undisciplined,un-practiced,and cannot hit a bull in the ass with a bag of rice,regardless of caliber.

4)A GOOD rifleman does not need to worry much about what he is shooting,within reason.He will do well with about anything.We all have our cartridge preferences,but the guy behind the rifle is the most important ingredient in the mix.His skill sets will frequently trump rifle and cartridge,scope,etc. He will do good with about anything.

I'm going elk/moose/mule deer hunting this fall in BC.Have not yet decided but the choice is down to a 270 Winchester,a 7mmDakota,or a 30/06.All will be loaded with Swift Aframes or Bitterroots. I am not the least bit concerned about which one I take.


Blaine: I think you'll find the 338 is excess baggage.JMHO grin


Ya know, I think this post is true. It's almost painful in that I have absolutely no justification for having anything more than a BB gun at this time. But I still keep looking at the classifieds.
Have to rethink all of this. Do I really want that Whitworth 375?
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gm:375's are different from anything smaller IMHO.At some point in the equation,frontal area and bullet weight matter.Where that point is, I don't know,but 375's smack stuff hard,and make big holes ....get the Whitworth! grin

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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Tim,you are the "perfect" gun stuff consumer! smile


Bob,
I resemble that remark!
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Originally Posted by BobinNH
gm:375's are different from anything smaller IMHO.At some point in the equation,frontal area and bullet weight matter.Where that point is, I don't know,but 375's smack stuff hard,and make big holes ....get the Whitworth! grin


Uhh...Thanks, .. I think. grin


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