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I HAVE had too much B12...signing off..
Ingwe

'Christ' isn't allowed any firearms.

He does have a new pellet gun though. I visited with him on Friday for a few hours.

Grow up.........

It sounded better coming from Maser.

Damn you guys are mean.

It's called the Big Stick Effect--and there are always some who take him too serious..........both the critics and defenders......



Casey

Ruthless, ain't they?.......




Casey

Sitka,

You are generally a pillar of respect and honest info on the Campfire, but you hammered Jeff when he didn't start it. And when somebody else says it, and it comes back in spades, I wouldn't be so quick on the trigger.

Jeff says a lot of roll-your-eyes kind of stuff here, but he doesn't start out attacking somebody else--he responds to attacks--that's an IMPORTANT difference.

If you're gonna hammer Jeff, then Paul deserves it too--if you are going to criticize where criticism is due........



Casey

You too, eh?......


Casey

Sam, not to doubt your word... but that doesn't LOOK like a pellet gun... then again the pic might not have been taken on Friday...
Ingwe

[quote] Sam, not to doubt your word... but that doesn't LOOK like a pellet gun.../quote]

I dunno ... but it shoots lotsa pellets!!!

Casey
First of all, I am no longer a moderator, so my comments are mine and do not reflect on Rick beyond the fact he remains a good friend, fishing and hunting buddy, and all around good guy for putting up with us.

When you suggest I did not say anything to Paul when it happened you just might be very wrong...

When it happened way back there may very well have been all sorts of discussions and Jeff may have had his feelings hurt. He should have known exactly where that line is.

This entire thread added nothing, particularly Jeff's efforts to open old wounds.

And thanks for the kind words, it is much appreciated.
art

Art,

That quote was from a comment that Paul Walukewicz made to ME. And no, you are not remembering an apology from him because there was none.

Your hypocrisy is evident and then some. You hammered me pretty good when you thought I said it. Now that you know HE said it, it's just "kumbaya, brutha!" between you two as you pat each other's back. Cute.

I contacted him in PM's at the time, to give him the chance to man up, but the best he came up with was something about how it was a shot at me, not my mother.

I ask the members of the fire, what would YOU do if someone said that about your mother? And what did I do? I didn't blow up publically (go click the link), I contacted him in PM's to sort it out, and even after he stuck to his guns, I let it go.

That doesn't mean I forgot it, or that I won't drag it out every now and then to remind the world what a classless lowlife he is. HE HAS EARNED THAT FROM ME. And, as I said then, it will give he and I something to talk about should we ever meet face to face.

I absorb a nearly endless series of hits from about a half-dozen guys around here. For the most part, I have learned to ignore it or make fun of it and move on. Occasionally it amuses me to hit them back. It's always, ALWAYS pretty damn hilarious to me that then (and only then) have the usual holier-than-thou's, such as Sitka Deer, come out and accuse me of degrading the Campfire.

Where are they, and where are you Sitka Deer, when the half-dozen guys, and we all know who they are, degrade the Campfire with their never-ending bombardment of crapola? Where's your clucking tongue?

As to the debate at hand, Shane's load functionally matches Larry's load out to insane distances, while delivering more energy, frontal area, bullet weight, and yes, more recoil. There are actions that don't share the M700's mag length issues -nobody specified we were only talking about M700's here- and for that matter, you can always single-load a round if you are about to pop a cap at some ungodly distance at a game animal anyway. "You'll have time". I'm granting TryMe's 2700 fps (in a 2.8 OAL, TryMe??) even though neither of my 7-08's would TOUCH that speed. And EVEN IF you take 50 fps off Shane's load due to losing some powder because you shorten the OAL, it's from a 20.5" barrel. Add in some barrel length and you'd get that 50-ish fps right back. And EVEN IF you don't, the load still behaves functionally the same. Identically skilled riflemen behind identically accurate rifles would hit within less than of inch of each other at 600 yards.

Dude... dudes <g>... if that's not the very definition of cartridges that are identical for practical purposes, then what is?

Something very disturbing, if you are a Big Stick accolyte, happened on this thread... and they are out for blood, and will be for a while, as payback. Just sayin'.

Except you've been striking back with an extremely limp wrist.
That's what you're not seeing here Jeff. If you look closely, there's a forest through those trees. Might start by quitting the "tubby fifth-grade girl that just wants to be liked" routine.

I think the hysteria TryMe and his guys showed, as the besodden debate continued and it became obvious that, "Holy Crap, Jeff is right! He's showing up Larry under terms that LARRY DEFINED!" would tend to disprove your thinkin' there.

But whatever. I came back to this thread because Art was pulling such a quick little turnaround that I was a'feared he'd get whiplash. Wanted to make sure his head was all the way back on straight <g>. I'm done with this thread, save for correcting gross misrepresentations of my character, should they arise (what are the chances of THAT?!).

Your shoulder must be double jointed to be able to pat yourself on the back so much.

The limerick thread was funny too.

Can someone please summarize the last 28 pages so I don't have to read thru all of them?

SD300,

Sure: the 7mm-08 is better than a 308? no, it's not.
Yes, it is. Not. Is so. Not.......lather, rise and repeat; then some ballistic minutia, some pic's of dead critters, Alaskan natives in ceremonial garb; then a few more insults later; here we are.

I think that covers it...