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I'm on a small 4 day strike(as I've talked about here before),no big deal, until I hear that one of the guys in my crew crossed the line. This guy has 35yrs service and I've been hunting whith him,I considered him a friend, and the other guys on the crew are pissed. I just feel sick about the whole deal. My pop said that scabs are lower than whale$hit. It is strange how quick one's choices changes others perception.


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I've spent several months on the picket line and in my opinion there's nothing worse than someone who crosses a legal picket!! You got to wonder what goes on in a guys head, it was only for four days, anybody can last a four day strike. Good luck, I wish you success. Tom

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I went on "strike",just the other day.

Was backstabbed by a new Supervisor,wishing to proclaim some notoriety for himself,in the false hope of crashing my niche. Despite my 10yrs invested,some 401-K loot,Health Insurance,etc,I pulled the pin in about 3 seconds flat due to baldfaced lies that hinted at my pride of worksmanship(mighta been faster than that,as I RAN to grab my tools).

It wasn't 24hrs later,that my situation was remedied with a 33% wage increase and a backdoor promise,that said azzhole wouldn't have any hold over my doings(thus far 100% true). All negotiations were by ME and to the "Higher Powers" who actually call the shots/cut checks.

To sweeten that pot,I was offered two jobs by different outfits,before I even hit my humble abode,with both offerings still wide open.

As mentioned prior,I always was sweet on the notion of speaking for myself and negotiating my very own contracts. I'm in no hurry to allow a Sheep,to mutter "my" thoughts.

Quitting is a supreme freedom and one cautious to excersize the right,often takes it in the azz..................


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You would have thought that he would have learned something in 35 years. Shows that some are not paying any attention.

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Depends on the guys personal and financial needs. Walk in their shoes before you make judgments.


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He mighta learned the ability to think for himself and act on his own accord?!!?

No shame in that...........................


Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Since I have zero use for unions I applaud his actions. tom


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I'm with Big Stick on this. I never could see letting someone else decide whether I work or not. miles


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I'm kinda curious about the beef against unions, being a pround union member myself.-KT28


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You need to talk it over and make peace with this friend if he is a true friend . An employer should never allow a strikeing union member to cross his own picket lines . Must be one sorrid company you work for .

I take a neutral position on unions . Corrupt and communist unions are as bad as the greedy corporations that would enslave a man and jeopardize his life and safety .

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Whats realy gonna scourch your shorts is when said jacka** gets to reap the benifits derived from the strike. Someone needs to take this boy out behind the sandshed and educate him in the fine points of being a union member. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

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KT28,

See AJ300MAG's last post to see what's wrong with unions! It's almost like the mafia, you join and we tell you what to do or else.......


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If you had a clue what the people that started the union went thru. You do it out of respect for the battles they fought. Seems like everyone is only worried about their own little world. I've got mine, screw everybody else. Might take a little sacrifice to do a whole bunch of people some good.

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Did they "fight their battles" out behind the woodshed ganging up on folks teaching them to be "unselfish"?


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Don't know if I would call it a "beef" or not, more like "porkin" in this situation. While it's not an everyday occurance, it does happen. It's a little long (5 pages) but worth the time if you are interested .......joken2 Local 2036

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At least he'll have those days wages instead of being short paid. I also applaud him for being a man of morales instead of only caring about himself. And people wonder why there is so much out sourcing going on.


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Apparently some of you don't know the definition of a SCAB. Anyone that supports a SCAB is of the same ilk.And by the way,we didn't lose any money,the company forced everyone to work till dark 2 days prior to the strike so that the SCABS wouldn't have to do to much. It was only 4 days(fri through mon).SCABS are lower than whale$hit...PERIOD!!!


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I hold no grudge against a man that opts to think for himself,as opposed to being manipulated as a sheep.

No shame in that....................


Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Awwww come on Stick, obviously you don't get it...as a Communications Workers of America member one is obligated to blindly follow in return for the tireless and selfless support shown by the union leadership....





Newswire

The Ullico Insider Stock Scandals

The Global Crossing bankruptcy, the fourth largest in U.S. history, has cost investors billions, resulted in over 9,000 people losing their jobs and has set in motion a federal investigation as to questionable accounting practices. As a result of a series of recent articles in Business Week and The Wall Street Journal, a whole new controversy linked to Global Crossing has arisen.



The focus is on Ullico, a privately held insurance company which is owned largely by unions and their pension funds. It was an early major investor in Global Crossing and its directors used the telecom�s volatile stock price history to personally enrich themselves at the expense of the union members and retirees whose pension funds own Ullico. Its board of directors is mostly made up of current or former union presidents and includes AFL-CIO head John Sweeney.



One of the Ullico directors most on the spot over the scandal is Morton Bahr, the longtime head of the Communications Workers of America (CWA) and a Ullico director since 1996. Many of the workers who lost their jobs and their life savings because of the Global Crossing bankruptcy were CWA members.



And the emerging record shows that Bahr was intimately involved in the Ullico-Global Crossing deal from the beginning. Bahr pushed for the Global Crossing deal even though the company was involved in telecommunications but not unionized. Time and again, Bahr used his authority as CWA boss to promote the interests of Gary Winnick�s Global Crossing:



� Bahr supported Global Crossing�s merger with Frontier Communications and opposed the bid for Frontier by Qwest.

� Bahr wrote 14 state governors supporting a takeover of U.S. West by Global Crossing

� Bahr�s support of the Ullico initial major investment in Global Crossing was essential since he represented one of the larger unions involved in Ullico.



Apparently the favoritism was not a one-way street. The Wall Street Journal expose of the Ullico scandal revealed that Bahr had personally profited from insider trading of Ullico stock to the tune of $27,000. However, a spokesman for Mr. Bahr assured the reporter that Bahr was �concerned about the propriety of stock trading by Ullico board members.� (�Inside Deal: How Union Bosses Enriched Themselves on an Insurer�s Board,� by Tom Hamburger and John Harwood, The Wall Street Journal, April 5, 2002, page 1)



The revelation was especially embarrassing to Bahr since less than a month earlier he had put out a press release in which he blasted �corporate arrogance� and singled out the �secret dealings and employee abuses of Enron and Global Crossing.� (PR Newswire, March 6, 2002, Communications Workers of America)

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hey journeyman,

unions, like any other institution, are organized and run by humans that put their pants on just like you and me... to imply that unions are inherently crooked because one individual or another commits a crime is as ludicrous as insisting that all businessmen are crooked in the same manner as those who operated ENRON, or the savings and loans of a few years back..... The brand of buckshot rhetoric that you've offered here seems a little lame...

you sidestepped the issue of the individual who agreed as an article of his union membership to abide by union decisions... he has collected union wages... he has received union benefits... and he turned like a rat and violated the trust of the membership at a time when they needed his support.....

maybe the strike would have resulted in the union gaining concessions from the outfit that they are striking.... oftentimes, too, a strike is settled when the union makes concessions of it's own.... And believe me , partner, i've seen a lot of both..... whatever the case, the issue gets settled by an agreement between men who hammer the thing out.....

But a scab?... both the company and the union will despise him when the dust settles.....

seen it before..... john w


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