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i have never owned a 270 but have really liked every one I have ever shot. I would probably never own any sub .22 cal, as my varmint hunting can be handled by .22lr, or 257 roberts. One wolf last winter fell quickly to it. Randy
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I have owned one .204, and will not own another.
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"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson, 1776
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The older I get, and the more experienced I become, the more I am content to just stay with the older well established cartridges. There is really nothing much that can be done with any of the newer shortmags, and other upstarts that can't be done with a round invented before, (oh lets just say 1970). There is so much overlapping in calibers, anymore. The gun companies have done nothing much but cheaper their products for the last 40yrs, but boy do we have the calibers to choose from, but then again, as soon as sales fall a little bit, these companies are even faster to abandon a new cartridge, then they were to come out with it in the first place.
We don't need all of the new fangled rounds the compaines are comming out with, what they ought to do is get back to making a decent rifle, that doesn't look and operate like a cheap overpriced piece of crap. I am sick and tired of seeing cheap plastic stocks, and poor metal to wood fit, shortcuts regarding beding, etc, stupid safety crap and unreliable actions, that have to be sent back to the maker or a gunsmith to get right, so they will at least function most of the time.
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RSAUMs, WSMs, RCMs or belted mags.
I do have to admit that after shooting a 300 RUM recently I could learn to love a 338 RUM or 338 EDGE, although in the past I've more or less sworn off all magnums.
I love the whole '06 family of cartridges, as well as the x57s.
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The older I get, and the more experienced I become, the more I am content to just stay with the older well established cartridges. There is really nothing much that can be done with any of the newer shortmags, and other upstarts that can't be done with a round invented before, (oh lets just say 1970). There is so much overlapping in calibers, anymore. The gun companies have done nothing much but cheaper their products for the last 40yrs, but boy do we have the calibers to choose from, but then again, as soon as sales fall a little bit, these companies are even faster to abandon a new cartridge, then they were to come out with it in the first place.
We don't need all of the new fangled rounds the compaines are comming out with, what they ought to do is get back to making a decent rifle, that doesn't look and operate like a cheap overpriced piece of crap. I am sick and tired of seeing cheap plastic stocks, and poor metal to wood fit, shortcuts regarding beding, etc, stupid safety crap and unreliable actions, that have to be sent back to the maker or a gunsmith to get right, so they will at least function most of the time.
Good post!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I won't own any WSSM's, Ultramags short and long, 30 TC, any rounds based off the 378 Weatherby case, 270 WSM, 7mm WSM, 6.5 Creedmoor, 243 Win and most likely will never own a 300 mag of any kind ever again. Most other calibers I would consider buying.
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I don't agree that its a good post!
For instance the Kimber rifles and in particular the Kimber Montana's in both the 84M and 8400 WSM cartridges are significant improvements over what was available in factory rifles.
The Kimber 84M Montana weighs only 5.2 lbs and is in a modern stock. The rifle also has many desireable features such as a mauser type extractor, CRF, a M70 type safety etc.
Same benefits from the Kimber 8400 Montana in the WSM's with new cartridges that don't have to headspace on a belt along with light rifles in magnum cartridges.
I say that some of the new things are indeed interesting and to me an advantage.
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Well...geez,Savage....I mean I wasn't thinking of ALL of them today Some of the new rifles are pretty nice......but I see his point.Some of the new stuff is pretty bad!And,I mean, did we ever see a Winchester M71 or M12 that did not WORK?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69 Pro-Constitution. LET'S GO BRANDON!!!
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Any caliber in a factory WSSM case. I've got to agree with this one, what a waste.
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Seems like some of these answers are fueled by emotion. Others more matter of fact. Interesting and funny.
We can damn sure get fired up over guns, reloading, etc. I'm in the club as well. Everyone has to belive in something.
Come on.
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WSM, WSSM, RUM, RSAUM, RCM, STW, STA, belted cases.
No sence behind - just guts (graveled).
Have a stronger opinion on cartridges I would not miss:
.45-70 Gov. .30-06 Sprg. 9,3x64
Stronger opinion yet on bullets I would not want to miss:
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I wouldn't rule out any I haven't owned yet. I said I would never own another short mag after being disappointed with the performance of a 6.5 Remington mag but, I have fallen in love with a 7mmWSM. There is one I won't own again. That is the 243 Winchester. It is the only cartridge that I have had fail to perform properly on a shot at a deer. The same 100gr bullet blew up on a couple of fallow deer, but they were recovered. It could have been fixed by changing bullets, but the experience with the whitetail soured me on it and I sold it. I know that a lot of people use it every year hunting deer with it, but to me it is marginal and I don't want another.
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I've managed to avoid all magnums, except the .375 H&H. Shot a few, but not impressive, when you can do so much with less sturm und drang. Can't be convinced to buy a 6mm anything, either. .224s are dandy, then I jump to .257. Can't see a use for the 6's. Finally, no use for a .308-based rounds. Nothing personal. Just...well...No thanks.
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Will not own: .325, .243
Probably will not own: .204, .338, 7MM
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.30-378 and other mega-magnum rounds...just don't see the real practical purpose.
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I have no love for the .308.
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I love them all. It's just that some of them seem boring... 308 Win., 30-06, etc. Not that they don't work, they all do if used in design parameters and you get the bullet in the right place. I realize that this makes no sense, but the question relates to personal preference.
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