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If all other factors are equal, I don't think that recoil is that much of an issue when choosing between a 7mm cartridge and a .30 caliber cartridge. For me at least, the .280 Rem. doesn't kick that much less than a .30-06, and 7mm Rem. Mag. doesn't kick that much less than a .300 Win. Mag. -- not enough recoil difference to get in the way of good shooting.
In the case of the later two cartridges, in my experience the .300 Win. hammers stuff better than the 7mm Rem., so when choosing a WSM cartridge, the .300 is the one I'd go with. I have literally shot the works with the .300 Win. Mag., from pronghorn to African lion, so I'm really on the side of the .300 WSM in this case.
But really, selection should depend upon whether you're a 7mm fan or a .300 fan. What mantra do you buy into? Which cartridge best captures your imagination? I know guys who have literally "shot the works" with the 7mm Rem. Mag. as well.............
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Guess I should have asked which is more accurate, and by how much? If the 7mm is .5 inches at 100 yards and the 300 is .75 inches, the 50% better group of the 7mm is insignificant at most shooting ranges (at 600 yards the dif is 3 inches, all things being otherwise equal).
I have kimbers and Tikkas, might just get a Savage in 7mm WSM with the accutrigger, just to experiment. David, You might answer your own question. As an engineer you might surmise that many cartridges produce similar accuracy. There was a report published by Remington a while back, of which I would like to see here, of the accuracy of the cartridges that the 40X had been chambered for. In general the larger the cartridge the larger the groups but not by much. In theory you might agree that the force of a larger cartridge might disturb the same rifle more. I have a 270 and a 7mm WSM. Both are reasonably accurate but at the moment the 7mm is slightly more so. This is just the variance in guns. Some quoted a gunsmith who claims that the 300 WSM is the more accurate of the trio. Perhaps it is? I do know that the owner of a shop that builds long range match rifles here in CT is now shooting the 300 WSM for 1000 yd target. Just pick the one you want and good luck is the reality of it all. As to the Savage WSM. I bought one as I could not wait for a custom 270 WSM to be finished. This was a very heavy 12fvss. If it had shot well I might have kept it. It didn't.
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My choice would be 7mm WSM if you hand load if not go 300 WSM.
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It only took 4 1/2 years to figure that out.....(grin)
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One wouldn't wish to be too hasty now would you...grin
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Better late than never... Was thinken about all the talk about 708 vs 308 and 280 vs 30-06 here at the Campfire this post just fits....
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Don't get us started! I have had enough of "this versus that" threads!
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So long as we don't start howling about who's got the bigger 'shortfat' it's all good!
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Keep your lady conquests to yourself.
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Don't get us started! I have had enough of "this versus that" threads! So whats your pick? The 7mm WSM would look nice next to your 325WSM & 308 Montana's......
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Yeah, That 7 would look good in my safe-if Kimber would make a Montana in 7 Whizzum, that is...
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The 284 168g vld has about the same BC as the 308 210g vld. I've driven the 210 vld around 2750fps in a 300 wsm and I've seen the 168g driven to near 3000fps in the 7 wsm. If your talking truly long range I'd consider the 7 for anything smaller than elk. If your going elk and bigger the 308 210 might be better.
I'm shooting the 210 vld in my 300 RUM at 3100 fps and it's looking promising.
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Tim, thats just a miner oversight.....grins...
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Keep your lady conquests to yourself.
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Tim, thats just a miner oversight.....grins... yes it was... (I really do wish Kimber still made a 7WSM, I would buy one.)
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Keep your lady conquests to yourself. You two should be so lucky to hear..... I'd be happy with either in a Montana.
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Right on Sam..Love your humor.
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