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McCarthy is the guy who prosecuted Khalid Sheikh Muhammed....this is his letter to that swine Eric Holder declining to participate in a Potemkin conference to give the Obamas cover as they cave to the PC wing of their party on national security. It is devastating, and will never see the light of day in the MSM, although it's all over the blogosphere:
Andrew McCarthy�s Epistle
The Honorable Eric H. Holder, Jr. Attorney General of the United States United States Department of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, D.C. 20530-0001
Dear Attorney General Holder:
This letter is respectfully submitted to inform you that I must decline the invitation to participate in the May 4 roundtable meeting the President�s Task Force on Detention Policy is convening with current and former prosecutors involved in international terrorism cases. An invitation was extended to me by trial lawyers from the Counterterrorism Section, who are members of the Task Force, which you are leading.
The invitation email (of April 14) indicates that the meeting is part of an ongoing effort to identify lawful policies on the detention and disposition of alien enemy combatants-or what the Department now calls �individuals captured or apprehended in connection with armed conflicts and counterterrorism operations.� I admire the lawyers of the Counterterrorism Division, and I do not question their good faith. Nevertheless, it is quite clear-most recently, from your provocative remarks on Wednesday in Germany-that the Obama administration has already settled on a policy of releasing trained jihadists (including releasing some of them into the United States). Whatever the good intentions of the organizers, the meeting will obviously be used by the administration to claim that its policy was arrived at in consultation with current and former government officials experienced in terrorism cases and national security issues. I deeply disagree with this policy, which I believe is a violation of federal law and a betrayal of the president�s first obligation to protect the American people. Under the circumstances, I think the better course is to register my dissent, rather than be used as a prop.
Moreover, in light of public statements by both you� - - - - - - - - - �and the President, it is dismayingly clear that, under your leadership, the Justice Department takes the position that a lawyer who in good faith offers legal advice to government policy makers-like the government lawyers who offered good faith advice on interrogation policy-may be subject to investigation and prosecution for the content of that advice, in addition to empty but professionally damaging accusations of ethical misconduct. Given that stance, any prudent lawyer would have to hesitate before offering advice to the government.
Beyond that, as elucidated in my writing (including my proposal for a new national security court, which I understand the Task Force has perused), I believe alien enemy combatants should be detained at Guantanamo Bay (or a facility like it) until the conclusion of hostilities. This national defense measure is deeply rooted in the venerable laws of war and was reaffirmed by the Supreme Court in the 2004 Hamdi case. Yet, as recently as Wednesday, you asserted that, in your considered judgment, such notions violate America�s �commitment to the rule of law.� Indeed, you elaborated, �Nothing symbolizes our [adminstration�s] new course more than our decision to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay�. President Obama believes, and I strongly agree, that Guantanamo has come to represent a time and an approach that we want to put behind us: a disregard for our centuries-long respect for the rule of law[.]� (Emphasis added.)
Given your policy of conducting ruinous criminal and ethics investigations of lawyers over the advice they offer the government, and your specific position that the wartime detention I would endorse is tantamount to a violation of law, it makes little sense for me to attend the Task Force meeting. After all, my choice would be to remain silent or risk jeopardizing myself.
For what it may be worth, I will say this much. For eight years, we have had a robust debate in the United States about how to handle alien terrorists captured during a defensive war authorized by Congress after nearly 3000 of our fellow Americans were annihilated. Essentially, there have been two camps. One calls for prosecution in the civilian criminal justice system, the strategy used throughout the 1990s. The other calls for a military justice approach of combatant detention and war-crimes prosecutions by military commission. Because each theory has its downsides, many commentators, myself included, have proposed a third way: a hybrid system, designed for the realities of modern international terrorism-a new system that would address the needs to protect our classified defense secrets and to assure Americans, as well as our allies, that we are detaining the right people.
There are differences in these various proposals. But their proponents, and adherents to both the military and civilian justice approaches, have all agreed on at least one thing: Foreign terrorists trained to execute mass-murder attacks cannot simply be released while the war ensues and Americans are still being targeted. We have already released too many jihadists who, as night follows day, have resumed plotting to kill Americans. Indeed, according to recent reports, a released Guantanamo detainee is now leading Taliban combat operations in Afghanistan, where President Obama has just sent additional American forces.
The Obama campaign smeared Guantanamo Bay as a human rights blight. Consistent with that hyperbolic rhetoric, the President began his administration by promising to close the detention camp within a year. The President did this even though he and you (a) agree Gitmo is a top-flight prison facility, (b) acknowledge that our nation is still at war, and (c) concede that many Gitmo detainees are extremely dangerous terrorists who cannot be tried under civilian court rules. Patently, the commitment to close Guantanamo Bay within a year was made without a plan for what to do with these detainees who cannot be tried. Consequently, the Detention Policy Task Force is not an effort to arrive at the best policy. It is an effort to justify a bad policy that has already been adopted: to wit, the Obama administration policy to release trained terrorists outright if that�s what it takes to close Gitmo by January.
Obviously, I am powerless to stop the administration from releasing top al Qaeda operatives who planned mass-murder attacks against American cities-like Binyam Mohammed (the accomplice of �Dirty Bomber� Jose Padilla) whom the administration recently transferred to Britain, where he is now at liberty and living on public assistance. I am similarly powerless to stop the administration from admitting into the United States such alien jihadists as the 17 remaining Uighur detainees. According to National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair, the Uighurs will apparently live freely, on American taxpayer assistance, despite the facts that they are affiliated with a terrorist organization and have received terrorist paramilitary training. Under federal immigration law (the 2005 REAL ID Act), those facts render them excludable from the United States. The Uighurs� impending release is thus a remarkable development given the Obama administration�s propensity to deride its predecessor�s purported insensitivity to the rule of law.
I am, in addition, powerless to stop the President, as he takes these reckless steps, from touting his Detention Policy Task Force as a demonstration of his national security seriousness. But I can decline to participate in the charade.
Finally, let me repeat that I respect and admire the dedication of Justice Department lawyers, whom I have tirelessly defended since I retired in 2003 as a chief assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York. It was a unique honor to serve for nearly twenty years as a federal prosecutor, under administrations of both parties. It was as proud a day as I have ever had when the trial team I led was awarded the Attorney General�s Exceptional Service Award in 1996, after we secured the convictions of Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman and his underlings for waging a terrorist war against the United States. I particularly appreciated receiving the award from Attorney General Reno-as I recounted in Willful Blindness, my book about the case, without her steadfastness against opposition from short-sighted government officials who wanted to release him, the �blind sheikh� would never have been indicted, much less convicted and so deservedly sentenced to life-imprisonment. In any event, I�ve always believed defending our nation is a duty of citizenship, not ideology. Thus, my conservative political views aside, I�ve made myself available to liberal and conservative groups, to Democrats and Republicans, who�ve thought tapping my experience would be beneficial. It pains me to decline your invitation, but the attendant circumstances leave no other option.
Very truly yours,
/S/
Andrew C. McCarthy
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Terrific letter..........thanks for posting here.
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There you have it. Thanks for putting it up.
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it is dismayingly clear that, under your leadership, the Justice Department takes the position that a lawyer who in good faith offers legal advice to government policy makers-like the government lawyers who offered good faith advice on interrogation policy-may be subject to investigation and prosecution for the content of that advice That's, of course, outrageous. Insane might be a better word. The president is the one who made the decision, not the attorneys who advised him. The attorneys were merely giving their opinions as to the law. Prosecuting those attorneys for giving erroneous opinions reminds one of something a Jame's Bond arch-villain might do.
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Terrific letter..........thanks for posting here.
MM Yep, my guess is Mr. McCarthy is in for a series of painful tax audits.
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says a mouth full.
Personally, I have no doubt that the real intent, and the endgame for hussein, is to harm America.
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Thanks , Steve,
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it is dismayingly clear that, under your leadership, the Justice Department takes the position that a lawyer who in good faith offers legal advice to government policy makers-like the government lawyers who offered good faith advice on interrogation policy-may be subject to investigation and prosecution for the content of that advice That's, of course, outrageous. Insane might be a better word. The president is the one who made the decision, not the attorneys who advised him. The attorneys were merely giving their opinions as to the law. Prosecuting those attorneys for giving erroneous opinions reminds one of something a Jame's Bond arch-villain might do. and it would be just as absurd to prosecute executive branch elected officials or intel agents who relied on those legal opinions.
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Wow!
Why couldn't we have this guy for AG?
Holder basically wants to fight terrorists with courts and policemen on American soil. Bush correctly saw that it was more effective to fight them with the military on their own soil.
One of the first rules of military strategy is to take the fight to the enemy. Disregarding that is disastrously wrong-headed.
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Reading an eloquently written scathing is one of life's joys.
Holder and Bam-Bam are probably sitting down and saying something brilliant like "Oh Yeah"!
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That is a beauty of a letter! Thanks for posting it.
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and it would be just as absurd to prosecute executive branch elected officials or intel agents who relied on those legal opinions. I'm afraid we part company on that one. No one is above the law in the United States. Every American is presumed to know that torturing prisoners is a serious crime, subjecting one to almost certain jail time if caught. Wasn't it you, during the Bush presidency, who said that if he commits crimes while in office we can prosecute him just like any other citizen, but we just have to wait till he's out of office? So now he's out of office. Time to prosecute him for his crimes. Also, all Americans are presumed to know that no order to torture a prisoner could possibly be legitimate, and each has a duty to ignore such an order. So anyone who obeyed that order is subject also to prosecution, and all up and down the command chain.
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I would not be just a nothin' my head all full of stuffin' My heart all full of pain. I would dance and be merry, life would be a ding-a-derry, If I only had a brain.
I sincerely wish that for you, as well, Isaac. Good luck in pursuing that very worthy goal.
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you seem to miss the logical connection Hawk.....the administration did comply with "the law"....a very murky and poorly defined body of law....by requesting opinions from the people the law says you request opinions from.
they were inventing procedures on the fly, because in the past nobody would have given a rat's ass about procedure in these circumstances, so there weren't any sitting around to use.
all approved by Congress, tinkered with to meet court rulings as needed.
Congress was fully briefed on all interrogation techniques, and your pals at the NYT breathlessly reported every aspect of the US effort.
To now declare that scrupulously legalistic approach to be criminal is just absurd.....a banana republic punishing the former junta.
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you seem to miss the logical connection Hawk.....the administration did comply with "the law"....a very murky and poorly defined body of law....by requesting opinions from the people the law says you request opinions from.
they were inventing procedures on the fly, because in the past nobody would have given a rat's ass about procedure in these circumstances, so there weren't any sitting around to use.
all approved by Congress, tinkered with to meet court rulings as needed.
Congress was fully briefed on all interrogation techniques, and your pals at the NYT breathlessly reported every aspect of the US effort.
To now declare that scrupulously legalistic approach to be criminal is just absurd.....a banana republic punishing the former junta. You seem to be suggesting that if a mob is large enough, whatever it chooses to do is to be deemed fully above board, so long as the members of that mob happen to hold political office in the United States.
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no, I'm pointing out that if you do exactly what "the law" prescribes, you're not breaking "the law"
pretty simple concept
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pretty simple concept
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Even for the simple!
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