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You just made my no-see list as well. Insensitave jerk!


George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you!

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Haggis, you made it onto my "ignore" list too. (I guess lack of class will always come through) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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badger, he has class. Low and NO!


George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you!

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Haggis just made my no-see-um troll list.
Along with a couple of other whats there names.

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As painful as it is to read posts like that you have to remember that in a way, reading them is mute testimony to Reagan, all the men that landed in Normandy, and any one else that fought for freedom. Without leaders such as Reagan, and our brave men and women that served and continue serve in the military none of what we do would be possible.
In short, every time I see some low life bastard burn our flag in the name of protest, or post something as despicable as they did, I try to remember that their actions are a constant reminder of the freedoms that we have.
In a perverted way, it keeps me from tracking them down and expressing my thoughts in a more personal manner.


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Olywa and Museskinner: Thanks for being the voice of reason. One can disagree with the policies without hating the man. It was a sad day in this country when disagreement turned to hate; can't pinpoint when it happened, but it is a major factor in the polarization of America. Happens on both sides of the aisle; ironic in a country built on tolerance and freedom of opinion.


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haggis' comments are not a disagreement. just pure insult. of course, he is welcome to make his insults. but i don't have to read them, which is why i put him on ignore.
i am a former reagan "hater." 22-23 years ago, i was your standard pink-blooded, semi-socialist newspaper man. then i ran the coverage for my newspaper when reagan visited for a july 4 celebration. only president i ever got within 15 feet of. the man's charisma - and his love for his country - were obvious. i knew right then reagan was not in it for himself. i could smell it. caused me right then and there to begin re-thinking my politics, geo-politics and social/cultural attitudes. it took a few years, but it swung me to the right side of moderate. call me a reconstructed reaganite if you must call me anything.
i got past bedtime for bonzo, and now consider reagan to be among the top 10 presidents among our 43. the man won the cold war. his vision is responsible for the birth of democracy in eastern europe and the attendant bust-up of the ussr. yeah, it was expensive, but in dollars, not lives. how can anyone argue with those accomplishments?


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Great points fish! He had help from the Iron Lady in winning the cold war, but who else really had a hand in bringing down the iron curtian? NOBODY! The libs will never give him credit for it, But history will. His legacy will live unlike the self serving Klinton and her husband.

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Let's cut Haggis and his ilk a little slack, boys! If you and I had swallowed the same borborygmic blather and fecal false allegations that the coprophages love to feed on, we'd have a bad taste in our mouths, too.

Pity 'em. A lame brain is a worse affliction than a lame leg -- not to mention of course a lips-lickin' taste for effluvium.


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well, that's a mouthful, ken, but a true one.
tastes bad to say it my mind. yuck. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


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"He destroyed social programs and unions."



Damn right he did, and good for him. Ever since LBJ and his "Great Society," we were becoming more and more a welfare state, where those who refused to work expected "entitlements" off the backs of those who worked. In other words, he tried to put a stop on us sliding further into socialism, and it was about time. As far as the unions, that was about time too, as they had become all too powerful and their time had long since past.

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Okay Ken, I'll cut him a little slack. How about, if you couldnt make it during the Reagan years it was because you couldnt get your lazy butt out of bed before noon.

When Reagan busted the Air traffic control union. He did what he said he would do. You strike, Your fired. The Soviets took notice of this in no small way, they found out that this man would follow through with his words. In other words, they (the Soviets) believed him.

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Well my family greatly benifited from Reagan's policies. In 1980 my FAMILY'S income was $300 a month thats right 300 a month. By the end of the Reagan Administration my father alone was round 12k a month. Self made on his own.



Reagan brought back personal responsability- my father took some and improved his standing, rather than expect anyone do it for him. If you are in the middle of a bad situation change it don't whine to the govt to do it.



I suppose those who bash Reagan were more than happy to buy a house at 22% and mad that others were able to buy theirs under Reagan for much less.



Added: As to the connotation that I or conservatives would act the same - I have never wished anybody here that does not agree with me to burn in hell and I have never held a party to revel in a family's pain and suffering. These may be normal for those who are anti-Reagan or non-conservative but they are not the "norm" where I come from.



Just because you may THINK the "other side" does it does not make it right.



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I worked for an older guy who was an old burned out left wing hippie. He had cleaned up and gotten edumacated and was actually a really great guy, but still a liberal to his hippie bone marrow. Well I debated him on every issue there is; from religion to the stock market, but whenever we touched upon Reagan his only reply was; "Reagan was a prince, a real prince..."

I loved Reagan. I really wished he had not gotten that horrible disease because it would have been interesting to have heard his take on many issues that developed after his term in office. Nancy was perhaps the quintessential wife for all time, loyal unto death and they were deeply in love. I always had some questions about some of her "quirks" like going to astrologers etc., but I never disdained her in my mind for it. She should get a medal for being the most faithful wife on earth. Really. God bless her.

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Buzz;

I just perused the link.

One good thing though- if and when this country melts down and we have to shoot it out in the streets, seeing hows we like shooting and know how to do it, well I suppose it will go easy on the conscience to put some of this scum in the grave in our last ditch fight for this country and our freedoms. The nation is divided, deeply divided and we are on a collision course one with another. I detest them near about as much as they detest me. Nice to get it out into the open. Only God restrains me and puts any sympathy or love in my soul for such scum. May they find redemption before their judgment.

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While I really despise Pres. Clinton - I despise the things he stood for much more and if it comes down to reveling in a death - I would much rather celebrate the death of the things he stood for.

Maybe the people who find it necessary to stomp on a good man's name and memory should really look in the mirror and think about how they would like to be remembered- Hateful, classless, uncaring person or someone who could look past idealogical problems to see a man as a human being and a child of God.

There is a line in the bible - sorry I do not have chapter and verse or exact quote but it goes something like this " that which you do to the least of my creatures you do unto Me"

Regardless of religous beliefs the golden rule is still the best rule. Reagan never let a barb get to him nor slung his own.

He also had the grace to not second guess or question another administrations doings - he prefered to ride off into the sunset.

Why can't everybody just let him?


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"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
-- Teddy Roosevelt


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Yeah.


George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you!

Old cat turd!

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I will defend everybodys rights to prove they are a moron. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

That goes for both sides of the political spectrum. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

A former President has passed away. It makes me realize how much older I am and where I stood back in the 80's. (A union worker who voted 75% Democratic) Boy how things change. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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T----- I gotta say I like your avatar - The flag at half mast last night going into work - lit up by about 6 lights made me stop and think.



Can there be a better show of respect by a country than to lower its national symbol? Show the humility that comes from mourning.


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