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The reason I started in on the fishing was not to say Haggis is a troll, I did it as is the easies way to show disagreement without the name calling. If you notice I later went about posting my pov on the subject.


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Haggis ,
I am sorry for calling you a JACKASS,I was wrong and it was childish.I apologize , can you ever forgive me?I don't know what I was thinking, maybe I should look inward and see if I can find the root of my need to call all liberals JACKASSES. Again...Please ,forgive me...please...


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Gentlemen...
If you will look through the list of threads in this forum, you will see that it is apparent that Haggis started this thread in response to a similar one directed against Democrats.

In my opinion, if you view it fairly, that bit of prose is *nearly* (can't help my bias <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />) as slanted as this one is against Republicans. That is why, though I admit some amusement over it in the past, I have come to have little interest in such writings. There are better examples of the style anyway (the old one directed against those who believe in gun control comes to mind), and I think these two are just evidence of our country's general slide into devisiveness (is that a word?).

Beyond that, I would echo the words of a previous post (sorry - now I forget who to credit to)...

"...There were some posters here who were trolls and deserved troll like treatment. Larrymartin and agree come to mind. Haggis doesn't fit into that category by any stretch of the imagination. To treat him as such is wrong...."

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Haggis and rickg; Remember, it stinks when you piss on the fire. Don't act so surprised by the reactions. I'm sure there are some places where your desperate need for controversy is wanted. If you don't like or "get" the responses to an outright and deliberate attack on what is obviously the predominant sentiment on issues around here, grow up, or find a new home to spew in.
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BTW, Rick is very tolerant of this oral flatulence you seem so proud of. Get a life.

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T Lee does not like name calling or getting personal . How about simple comparisons? Haggis, rick g, and Mule Skinner sometimes remind me of Ted Kennedy, Michael Moore, and Jane Fonda or other ultra left wing Dems. It is their right in this wonderul American system of free speech and freedom to be as they wish to be.

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#301437 - 06/08/04 03:28 PM: Haggis posts the republican one.

#301727 - 06/09/04 07:12 AM: First mention of the Dem one.

#301728 - 06/09/04 07:19 AM: Seperate post of the Dem one.

Hmm, seems Haggis started this one FM.


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Abortion is Murder and a huge reason why I will never vote with the dems. And outsourcing? you need to look into that a little more before opening your big mouth. As stated previously look into Heinz corporation a little <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> You may learn a thing or two.



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Gentlemen...

If you will look through the list of threads in this forum, you will see that it is apparent that Haggis started this thread in response to a similar one directed against Democrats.

Not true, FreeMe. As T LEE has pointed out, my "Democrats" thread was posted as a response to Haggis' ridiculous "Republicans" thread (this one), and not the other way around. I only fired in self defense! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Here it is:



If You Are a Democrat ... (Posted at 3:19 AM)

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Some points are right on the mark, others are off the wall. Thanks for the laugh.

BTW, I will probably hold my nose and vote for GB--I have a feeling he'll need the help. Even if I didn't vote for GB, there is no way I'd vote for any Democrat. I'd abstain before I did that, or do what I've done in the past and vote Libertarian, although I've become somewhat disillusioned by them and their opposition to this righteous, needed, religious war we are in with the ***heads. (Hint to Libertarians: Not all war is bad. When someone knees you in the 'nads, you crush their face, as well as their will and ability to ever do it again. You had better watch it, you're coming dangerously close to becoming sissified Democrats [was that redundant?].)
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#301437 - 06/08/04 03:28 PM: Haggis posts the republican one.

#301727 - 06/09/04 07:12 AM: First mention of the Dem one.

#301728 - 06/09/04 07:19 AM: Seperate post of the Dem one.

Hmm, seems Haggis started this one FM.


Actually, upon re-checking - Haggis posted at 11:28 am on the 8th. I missed the difference in the dates - my bad! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Nevertheless - I've had my disagreements with Haggis, but I still don't believe he deserves the troll treatment.

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Dal, the Libertarian party has such a pretence for picking an IDIOT to run for president. I voted for them once, the first time Klinton ran, and I don't think I will again unless they really get their act together. I'm going to vote for GW, I can't stand Kerry.


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1) B.S. - i don't know what the resolution of this case was as i stopped following it months ago.... he was leaned o pretty hard, innocent or guilty...

2) the u.s. would be better off out of the u.n.... probably not practical at this point

3) good point

4) good point

5) no one is worried about what any woman is doing with her own body... it's the body of the unborn child that we worry about...

6) jesus loves us regardless of the nature of our sins... he even loves hillary... if face to face with hillary today would probably advise her to sin no more..... he even cares about those of us who've really gone around the bend, be it in the name of keeping America free (total B.S.), for the sake of national security (B.S.), or as an instrument of foreign policy ( BINGO ).....

7) i have nothing, per se, against veterans benefits, or combat pay..... the best way to raise an armed forces morale is to professionalize it... we have done that.....

8) good point, to a point... philosophically, in every way, he could have just as easily run on a democratic ticket...

9) this needs to be a leadership thing in the home.....

10) got things to do will get back


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Read some of his other stuff. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />


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#3 Good point.
#20 Good point.
The others merit at least some level of objective debate. While I consider myself a solid Republican, at least at this point, I'm not above wondering if W might have his head up his can sometimes. I'm surprised at the level of denial on this board by most of the responders. Most of the items on that list are hard to dispute, unfortunately for us Americans. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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Well I can agree with 20, to a point but I think it is gonna end up to be one of those things where we just wait him out- Fidel can not be all that young anymore.

Way back in the day my great grandmother used to go down to Cuba to vacation - would tell us about it and it seems to me that it was like Vegas with a beach. If Cuba could get out of Fidels hands it could be a very nice place - look at the tourist $$ spent on the islands around it.


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Way back in the day my great grandmother used to go down to Cuba to vacation - would tell us about it and it seems to me that it was like Vegas with a beach. If Cuba could get out of Fidels hands it could be a very nice place - look at the tourist $$ spent on the islands around it.


Whoa, I was there a few times as a kid. He ain't been in power that long!

I say the solution to the Cuban thing is to let them field teams in both the National and American leagues. 'Sides, Fidel is getting old, can't last a whole lot longer.


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I thought you guys were well informed! Fidel Castro is dead! Yup! Benny Hinn prophesied on Dec 31, 1989 that Fidel would die during the 1990's, I can find the link if anyone is interested!

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Benny Hinn prophesied


Don't know about his prophesy, but that Jap food he makes at his restaraunts is pretty good grub.


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11) jesus has the interest of the public at heart... we should all try to do our part for our neighbor..... hmo's and insurance companies are businesses and need to be run as such to remain solvent.....

12) basic health care in a nation whose infrastructure we have traumatically revamped is a humanitarian obligation..... better health care is available, regardless of ones ability to pay, right here at home..... and i'm payin for that too!!!

13) global warming may or may not be the end of the human race... the alarmists rely upon almost wholly unsupportable assumptions..... the matter is being studied by a lot of serious science.....

the government has required warning labels on tobacco since i was a child..... i started on the wrong foot but have refused tobacco now for more than 20 years..... if it kills me, i did it to myself.....

my first grade son studies elements of the q'uran in public elementary school as part of multiculturalism... his intolerant christian bible thumper parents will have to accept it or send their children to school elsewhere.....

14) good point-- America has backed a lot of causes in a lot of places... sometimes great profit has been made..... sometimes great prices paid..... a lot of this has occurred through the selflessness of patriotic individuals who believed in a cause and were willing to take terrible risks, both economic, and physical..... sometimes, maybe often, their efforts were misguided..... sometimes, people have been corrupted..... inevitably, i believe that we have all been corrupted by our acceptance of subterfuge and the visitation of clandestine mayhem and violence upon those that we mistrust or fear....

15) poppycock!!! clinton lied under oath and is still laughing in his sleeve about it.....
bush is doing what i would do in the middle east, if i had the authority..... what he's doing here, at home, constitutionally, is deplorable and dangerous.....

16) only in recent years have the politically correct, and the militantly mouthy, silenced the wisdom of the medical profession which considered homosexuality a mental illness..... lifestyle acceptance is now taught in public schools, not for the judeo christian lifestyle though..... LET THE MILITANT HOMOSEXUAL PROMOTE HIS CAUSE IN IRAN

17) bushes driving record is a matter of public record, not that he crows about it..... i remember the fuss about hillary's cattle trades, but i wonder more about what role she played in the demise of vince foster......

18) excellent point,..... washington needs to be dehorned in it's dealings with the united states...

19) treasonous, cowardly, and irresponsible vs. arrogant, scheming, and greedy..... good point!

20) cuba was a desperately dangerous enemy throughout the mid and late 70's.... not just in the western hemisphere but globally..... i have reason to believe that it was so since the inception of the castro regime when it came to power relatively suddenly..... like cuba, china was once an ally... their politics and outlook changed, but the threat to western society from the chinese has grown much more slowly, and manifests itself, primarily, as an economic weapon.....


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Don't know about his prophesy, but that Jap food he makes at his restaraunts is pretty good grub.


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