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Lack of sling swivel studs:

No centerfire rifle should reach the consumer without QD sling swivel studs properly installed by the factory! Can't begin to count the number of otherwise nice, desireable pre-owned rifles I've encountered that were ruined (to my eyes anyway) by crooked, cock-eyed, off center studs drilled too high or low by some ham-fisted moron with a hand drill. Do it right from the factory to begin with and save the consumer the hassle!


Plastic (aka "polymer") parts such as magazines, trigger guards, etc.:

Listen up Browning (X-Bolt, yuck!), Tikka, etc.... You expect cheap crap on "econo" Savages and Mossbergs, etc. but not on rifles costing $700+. Cheap, injection molded Tupperware stocks are bad enough but a plastic magazine is unforgivable. I own and love 3 A-Bolts but will never own an X-Bolt. Good move Browning, take a perfectly fine rifle, do away with some of its best features, cheapen it (while telling us its an "improvement") and charge more for it! Tikka? Don't care how good they shoot. A cheaper more Mickey Mouse looking rifle I can't imagine.


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High priced crap, such as Realtree injection molded handles and the aformentioned cost-cuts.

Shoddy workmanship and lack of attention to detail, such as barrels making uneven contact in the stock. It sometimes seems as if nobody even looked at a rifle before it left the factory.

Everything else is personal preference. There are still a lot of good options out there.

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1) Short magnums

2} Synthetic stocks

I hate muzzle breaks too, but you said I could only have 2.


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muzzle brakes and monte carlo stocks.

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long barrels
heavy barrels


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Muzzle brakes

Huge scopes

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Plastic belongs on cars ( I guess,) but not on rifles.


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friggin bolt handles that hit the eyepice when low scope mounts are used.
AGHHHHH! freakin steyr. my favorite rifles but the GD bolt handles are 2mm too high for low leupold rigngs!!!!
FK!!!


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1.0 Lawyer proof triggers
1.1 champagne bottle scopes
2.0 "seeing" magazines (Floor plates, detachable)
2.1 gimicks (heck - I have a hard time Not calling variable scopes such... for hunting)
2.2 open sights installed from factory, that are next to useless (Marlin listening?)

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Originally Posted by sambo3006
#1 sucky triggers
#2 sucky triggers


Yep +1


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Having to spend time and/or money sorting out factory issued

1. triggers

2. bedding

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Lawyer triggers and 'restricted' parts...


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1. BOSS system/Muzzlebrakes
2. big scope
3. cheap plastic stock
4. Bolt handles (a-bolt,i-bolt)
5. Stock style (x-bolt)
6. cheap machine engraving
7. noisy hard safeties

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1. Reliability to include feeding, extraction, ejection, and consistent trigger.

2. Just won't shoot 1.5 MOA or better.

All else I can live with or easily fix.

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lack of...


Pointability

and

Handling.




Kimbers about the only one even close to making a rifle these days.


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If I wanted a chunk of Rebar on a 2x4 I can do that myself...

Just sayin'


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1. Factory rifles - Would rather have one custom than a dozen factory guns.
2. Factory ammo - I hunt with handloads
3. Cruddy triggers
4. Know It Alls who think they are the epitome of hunting & shooting (they usually don't know zip)
5. Muzzle Brakes
6. People who know what I like better than I do.
7. People who don't know what they are talking about (related to #4)
8. Surveys that limit our choices - just being humorous there.


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Brakes
Plastic parts
[bleep] inletting
Gold triggers! Ha!
Scope bases over the port
Pic rails
Fixing what ain't broke!


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Originally Posted by battue


Remingtons habit of discontinuing a product when they have hit a home run.

+1!

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1. fluted barrels.

2. WSMs

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