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Socialism FYI is always a "Police State".


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Originally Posted by zeNII
ANABOLIC STEROIDS IN USE BY POLICE

One of the remarkable anomalies of the anti-steroid campaign of the past two decades is that it has virtually ignored the many reports of steroid use by police officers in the United States and in other countries. Unknown but clearly significant numbers of policemen have imported, smuggled, sold, and used anabolic steroids over this time period. According to an article that appeared in the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin in 1991: "Anabolic steroid abuse by police officers is a serious problem that merits greater awareness by departments across the country." (1) In 2003 another expert offered a similar assessment. Little research has been done on the use of steroids by police, said Larry Gaines, former executive director of the Kentucky Chiefs of Police Association. "But I think it's a larger problem than people think.".(2)...
It was no accident that the "60 Minutes" segment paid special attention to a "hard core group" of steroid users on the Miami police force. Two years earlier the Miami Herald had run a long article on steroid-using police officers. The seven notorious Miami "River Cops", who in 1987 were on trial for alleged crimes including cocaine trafficking and conspiracy to commit murder, included Armando "Scarface" Garcia, a weightlifter who had publicly admitted to taking steroids. "There's a great potential for an officer abusing steroids to physically mistreat people," said the police chief of nearby Hollywood, Florida, who had told his investigators to be on the lookout for officers who looked like "small mountains." (3) The Miami Herald article may have been the first of the tiny number of analytical treatments of this subject that have appeared in American newspapers since the 1980s....
"The thinking is that big is better than small, tough is better than weak," says Gene Sanders, a former police officer and a longtime police psychologist in California. "There is sort of an underground, unspoken tradition among several departments that I've worked with that if you really want to bulk up, this is the best way to do it." (8) A website maintained by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) reports the same attitude toward functional steroid use by police officers: "Law enforcement personnel have used steroids for both physical and psychological reasons. The idea of enhanced physical strength and endurance provides one with 'the invincible mentality' when performing law enforcement duties." (9)



http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/hoberman/cops-on-steroids.htm
So that's why so many cops these days look like that Officer Kenneth Freeman who knocked down the old man working as a greeter at Walmart for asking him to show his receipt.

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You have to love this story-no charges AGAIN-way to go LE


Officer Will Not Face Charges In Shoving Of 71-Year-Old Wal-Mart Greeter
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Chattanooga Police Det. Kenneth Freeman will not face charges in an incident in which he shoved a 71-year-old greeter at the Wal-Mart in Collegedale to the floor after he tried to stop him while doing a receipts check.

Collegedale Police declined to bring charges, then the employee, Bill Walker, filled out a complaint himself. Collegedale Judge Kevin Wilson has reviewed the complaint and did not issue an assault charge.

In the incident on Christmas Eve, Mr. Walker said an alarm went off when Det. Freeman and another city police officer, Edwin McPherson, were leaving the store.

He said he reached to try to stop Det. Freeman and he was pushed against a soft drink machine and to the floor. He said the officer then hovered over him as he lay on the floor.

A police report says a customer then told Det. Freeman, "You can't push down an old man" and began struggling with him. It says Det. Freeman then shoved that man, Gholom Ghassedi, through a glass door. Officers found Mr. Ghassedi with blood on his neck, but he declined medical treatment.
Sgt. McPherson broke up the fight between Det. Freeman and Mr. Ghassedi.

Rick Watkins of Wal-Mart said an alarm was sounded when the 48-year-old Freeman walked by, causing Mr. Walker to try to stop him. Sgt. McPherson had already stopped for a receipt check.

An officer from the Chattanooga Police Department's Internal Affairs division arrived at the scene to look into the incident.

Cpl. Larry Robbins Jr. of the Collegedale Police said he decided not to bring assault charges against Det. Freeman, saying the incident was a misdemeanor not committed in the presence of an officer, there were no injuries requiring medical attention, the suspect is not a flight risk, and "there were no other crimes committed along with the possible simple assault."

He said the investigation would be ongoing, but he said he "was unable to determine at the scene that there was any intent to commit an assault."

Collegedale Officer Paul Crosby said when he arrived at the scene he found a large group of people gathered outside the door of the store. He said some "were obviously angry and were pointing fingers and yelling."

He said one man was "livid" and was pointing his finger at Det. Freeman while saying, "You are a police officer? Shame on you."

Det. Freeman was involved in a scuffle with attorney Lloyd Levitt at the Courts Building in May 2007.









http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_141946.asp

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The responding officers were correct as to the law in this state. If it's a misd. and didn't happen in their presence they can't make an arrest. The victim was then required to take out a warrant himself of which he did.

If the citizen didn't like the Judges verdict, the citizen could of presented the case before the next setting of the Grand Jury in that Cnty.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by zeNII
ANABOLIC STEROIDS IN USE BY POLICE

One of the remarkable anomalies of the anti-steroid campaign of the past two decades is that it has virtually ignored the many reports of steroid use by police officers in the United States and in other countries. Unknown but clearly significant numbers of policemen have imported, smuggled, sold, and used anabolic steroids over this time period. According to an article that appeared in the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin in 1991: "Anabolic steroid abuse by police officers is a serious problem that merits greater awareness by departments across the country." (1) In 2003 another expert offered a similar assessment. Little research has been done on the use of steroids by police, said Larry Gaines, former executive director of the Kentucky Chiefs of Police Association. "But I think it's a larger problem than people think.".(2)...
It was no accident that the "60 Minutes" segment paid special attention to a "hard core group" of steroid users on the Miami police force. Two years earlier the Miami Herald had run a long article on steroid-using police officers. The seven notorious Miami "River Cops", who in 1987 were on trial for alleged crimes including cocaine trafficking and conspiracy to commit murder, included Armando "Scarface" Garcia, a weightlifter who had publicly admitted to taking steroids. "There's a great potential for an officer abusing steroids to physically mistreat people," said the police chief of nearby Hollywood, Florida, who had told his investigators to be on the lookout for officers who looked like "small mountains." (3) The Miami Herald article may have been the first of the tiny number of analytical treatments of this subject that have appeared in American newspapers since the 1980s....
"The thinking is that big is better than small, tough is better than weak," says Gene Sanders, a former police officer and a longtime police psychologist in California. "There is sort of an underground, unspoken tradition among several departments that I've worked with that if you really want to bulk up, this is the best way to do it." (8) A website maintained by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) reports the same attitude toward functional steroid use by police officers: "Law enforcement personnel have used steroids for both physical and psychological reasons. The idea of enhanced physical strength and endurance provides one with 'the invincible mentality' when performing law enforcement duties." (9)



http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/hoberman/cops-on-steroids.htm
So that's why so many cops these days look like that Officer Kenneth Freeman who knocked down the old man working as a greeter at Walmart for asking him to show his receipt.


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sounds like a typical troll.

by the way, welcome to the forum


No, I am not a troll.




Not you Kevin! The guy you're talking about.


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This must be LE steroid day in the press. I pulled up a PNW newspaper and saw a case in Clackamas Co. OR. This involving a small Dept in that Cnty. and a citizen who was selling steroids to officers, this from an FBI investigation.

Then i pull up a paper in this state and two Deputies in two neighboring counties in West TN. were pinched for selling steroids.

I've never personally been involved with the stuff, nor do i, to my knowledge know anyone who is. We get physicals yearly in which blood is drawn in the agency by a Nurse, they can check for what ever they want to.

Plus if the Sheriff or his Admin. suspects or has a warm and fuzzy, you have to pee in a cup on their say so.

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zen is a knobby idiot from another site. He is fun to drop kick from time to time.


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Wait until nezII goes on one of its anti American, anti military and PRO gay rants. Just waiting....it will happen soon.

He is a little big man in So Cal....raises "endangered" chickens.

On his landlords property, neighbors hate him.


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That ought to be good for at least 2000 replies. smile


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ZenII, are you a retard or what? I mean I'm usually on the ball about keeping an eye on the police myself, but you give guys like me a bad reputation. Come on dude, if you want to argue in the big leagues, don't come in half prepared. I feel like I've failed because of you're silly nonsense. aaaarrrghhhhh !!

Just post more chit like this and move on,!!! The more you type the worse the cause looks. Your blatherin' ain't helpin' at all. Take it from another anti LEO member .

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Originally Posted by JacquesLaRami
ZenII, are you a retard or what? I mean I'm usually on the ball about keeping an eye on the police myself, but you give guys like me a bad reputation. Come on dude, if you want to argue in the big leagues, don't come in half prepared. I feel like I've failed because of you're silly nonsense. aaaarrrghhhhh !!

Just post more chit like this and move on,!!! The more you type the worse the cause looks. Your blatherin' ain't helpin' at all. Take it from another anti LEO member .

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Wow...you admit you're anti-LEO. Too bad the average officer doesn't have access to a database that catalogs people like you.

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It was a joke dude -- don't try to be an example of what the joke was about crazy

I mean I don't really have nothin' against cops, it's just cops like you, GeneL, and Hunter1960, and a very few others that would be azzholes even if you were plumbers or somethin', that I don't like.


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Originally Posted by JacquesLaRami


Just post more chit like this and move on,!!! The more you type the worse the cause looks. Your blatherin' ain't helpin' at all. Take it from another anti LEO member .


Wow, I've never heard somebody actually come out and admit it, usually the anti-LEO crowd tries to pass themselves off as unbiased, concerned citizens. Kudos on your honesty. wink







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I am concerned about attitudes, TLee, (who I think was probably a great cop) Mac, and NH KN9 seem like gentlemen. Just give me my ticket and I'll pay it, no problem -- I'll even be polite to you when you write it out. But if you're a bunghole, like may me construed, from the way you post on the internet, you probably bring that attitude to my window 'cause I was going over the speed limit a little bit, and bring it with a chip on your shoulder, then don't be surprised if I get one too. I can appreciate someone doing their job, and if their job is to give me the ticket, so be it.

After that it's all in the manner that they carry out their job -- Like I said, if you can't even post something on the internet that's polite and appropriate, you're chances at dealing with the living public effectively are pretty slim -- and I have friends that are LEOs that feel the same.

That is something we do need to watch out for IMHO.


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Originally Posted by JacquesLaRami

I mean I don't really have nothin' against cops, it's just cops like you, GeneL, and Hunter1960, and a very few others that would be azzholes even if you were plumbers or somethin', that I don't like.

You, nor anyone on this board, has any idea of what kind of "cop" I was.

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Ain't to hard to guess!

I mean I could be wrong, maybe you're really cool in person, and only an Azzhole on the internet, but I doubt it, unless you're a puny little fugger, then I could see it going down that way.


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Originally Posted by Magnumdood
Originally Posted by JacquesLaRami

I mean I don't really have nothin' against cops, it's just cops like you, GeneL, and Hunter1960, and a very few others that would be azzholes even if you were plumbers or somethin', that I don't like.

You, nor anyone on this board, has any idea of what kind of "cop" I was.

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That's funny, some folks base their whole interpretation of people and the world, based on the Net. As you've stated they don't know you or I, nor how we perform our duties. They don't have a clue, as to what is good or bad in the business.

I guess they're assumption is that unless you let everyone go with warnings or turn your head to crime and tell people, "Please don't do that again, because I don't want to arrest you", your a good guy.

I'll remember that next time a victim's home has been burglarized, to tell them that the perpetrator is really a great person, who's been misunderstood. The same with Meth. cookers, they really didn't intend to do that, it's just the circumstances of which they were raised, and should get a free pass.

At the same time, they don't know the others that they assume are so called good guys, they've never spent a day on the street with them.

Jacques, you don't have a clue as to what is good or bad, other then what you read about in incidents on YouTube etc. You assume that if an LEO turns on the blue lights and makes traffic stops or makes arrests, they're bad. If they drive around and do nothing, but wave at the public all day or night, they're good. You assume unless you play "kissy ass" on the Net, then your a monster in public.

Considering where you live, you probably haven't seen or dealt with real crime. You live in a world of peace, love and harmony. This along with the fact that your only involvement with LE is with a uniformed LEO in a marked unit, who's stopped you for a traffic violation. That you feel you didn't commit or isn't really that important in your beliefs. That's only the tip of the iceberg as to what LE involves.

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Originally Posted by JacquesLaRami
I am concerned about attitudes, TLee, (who I think was probably a great cop) Mac, and NH KN9 seem like gentlemen. Just give me my ticket and I'll pay it, no problem -- I'll even be polite to you when you write it out. But if you're a bunghole, like may me construed, from the way you post on the internet, you probably bring that attitude to my window 'cause I was going over the speed limit a little bit, and bring it with a chip on your shoulder, then don't be surprised if I get one too. I can appreciate someone doing their job, and if their job is to give me the ticket, so be it.

After that it's all in the manner that they carry out their job -- Like I said, if you can't even post something on the internet that's polite and appropriate, you're chances at dealing with the living public effectively are pretty slim -- and I have friends that are LEOs that feel the same.

That is something we do need to watch out for IMHO.

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And you base this concept on what?? You'd be surprised at the number of traffic stops made in this country that are nothing but pictures of politeness, between the parties. In my case you don't know me, nor have ever been on a traffic stop with me.

People in my business, who work for an elected official. Excessive complaints will end with unemployment. I am not related to my Sheriff, nor born and raised in this county or have social/political importance within it. It's all about courtesy and professionalism.

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After exhaustive (and continued) research into the Police Mind, I have come across a partial answer to the mystery of WHERE Americans, the proud, the free, the independent started to go wrong, by allowing a civil servant class, ergo the Police become this overbearing overdominant Megapyle of control, ever present in daily life; inspections, roadside inspections, inspections for drunk driving, and here lately in California by F&G roadside stops for driving while hunting (that is, in one popular mountain gateway if you look like you are driving to or from a hunting trip you get flagged over, and you and your car are searched for guns, game, violations, and your serial numbers may be recorded),
they practise a cultish ritual, regularly, how long this has been going on is anyone's guess-

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