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Talk at you later Tim....

What's the load on this one Guy.........pretty impressive!

I finally figured out how to post pictures. Below are some shots which I mention in my post above.

I went was shooting yesterday and found that the scirocco load I used last year won't shoot anymore, groups 3.5-4 inches, go figure.


This shot is 165 gr accubond 30-06 100 yrds 3 shots


This is 130 gr accubond .260 rem 100 yrds, couldn't get the 130gr scirocco to group 2.5- 3 inches



These two are of the 165 gr sicrocco that was pulled from the rear hind (oops) after quartering through the deer, entering at the front shoulder.






If anyone is interested in seeing the scirocco groups let me know, they are ugly.

100grSSII/Wby Brass/Fed215M/H1000/COL:3.195" = 3585fps Vanguard

I took my buddies' word for it. Guess he was over zealous. Did not intend to embellish. But, he was big for sure and the AB did it's job.

That's been my experience in my 270 as well with the S1's. I did get one that was a decent grouping but at about 200 fps less then I desired. The AB has been much more accurate for me.

One of the things I've noticed about the Sciroccos is that Swift doesn't recommend nearly as fast a load for them as they do their A-Frames. For instance, with IMR 4350, and the 165 gr. weight, they say 53.5 grs. is tops for 2761 fps. For their A-Frame, same weight, they say 58 grs. for 2882 fps. Nosler says their top load for their Partition and Ballistic Tip loads are 59 grs. of IMR 4350 for 2940 fps. All of these are 30'06 loads and all are for their 165 gr. bullets. Perhaps the alloy and thickness of the jacket on the Scirocco ? I suppose you could say that what the Scirocco lacks in intial muzzle velocity, it makes up for in higher BC.
As far as game performance, they apparently are pretty similar. They open very wide at high impact speeds but also open pretty well at very low impact speeds.
The AB was suppose to perform like a Partition. But from what I've seen, they work very much like the other bonded core bullets w/o a partition. They open very wide at high impact speeds which limits their penetration even if they do maintain close to 90% of their original weight.
I'm of the opinion that they are both at their best way out there. Up close, I'd go with either the NP or the SAF. E

It would be a hard job indeed to find an Accubomb that retained anything near 90% after killing a critter.

Ditto that. AB's are nothing but Ballistic tips and nothing more. Bonded my arse.

Oh don't get me wrong, I like 'em. They shoot the lights out in a few of my rigs, and killed a few critters with them nicely, but I'm not going to delude myself or anyone else into thinking they're something they're not.

How many grns of the h1000?

Popapi-

work up to 74grs

Will do bullets will be here on wednesday! Thanks

I hope they fly straight for ya


Good luck,

Brett

Brett I have a pretty good feeling they will!

I am sorta inclined to agree.....

At least ,they don't seem to be "bonded" the way I learned about "bonded".......

The recovered AB's and BT's that I've used to kill phonebooks look different. The lead 'clings' to the jacket noticably better on the AB's.

I'm betting they both work on deer...(grin0

Not if it runs 20 feet, and then it's a hellish tracking job and retrieval, an obvious bullet failure, and a 35 page topic on the 'fire...

TFF...

Those Torpedo's will kick a guy square in the ass.
Celebrating tomorrow's MIL departure a little early...

Nice!