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Sounds like a really cool and effective wildcat. One of the best ideas yet, right in there between a 300 mag and a 338 Mag. Actually, your velocities make it even better than "between."
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We have not built one yet. I'm surprised you can get to 3000fps with a case that holds about 15grs less than the 8mm Rem (which just gets to 3000 with a 220gr). I sort of figured about 2850fps, which would have been ok.
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That would be a nice long range outfit using the 200grn. Nos. Part.!!
If you really like something,you better buy two!
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My 8mm-308 Norma would get 3000 fps with the 196 gr Norma Dual Core bullet and IMR 4350
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Rod: your right..so were we,but it does just that. We`ve cronied this thing to many times for the first readings to be incorrect. I`m thinking the case is just that efficient, and remember the 26 inch tube. No pressure signs tho, and I make sure we look for them..one thing bout making up a round no one has loading info on. This wildcat really smokes. We bought a box of 200 grn. Sierra Match, only sold till recently in Europe, for some long range trials,500, 600 yrds. We are pushing the bullet to 3150fps. Excellent results. I`m thinking bout building one for me.. the first was for my son.
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Yes, the Nos. 200 grn. shoots very well. So does the 180. Ryan used it for deer in Wyoming this past fall.
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Yukoner..do you know if thoes bullets are still available? and maybe where I could get some? Sounds like their constructed much the same as Swifts? Thanks
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Pretty sure they are still available. I will see and get back to you.
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Yukoner, you mentioned big bear with the 8x308 Norma. Got a story?
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Let me know how ur 8mm WSM turns out. I love the 8mm mag. 3300 ft per second easy with nosler B.T., 3100 ft per second with 200 grain anything, and 2800 ft per second with blue mounatin custom.
Dropped a dall shepp at an honest 450 yards two yrs ago with a nosler B.T.
I actually have a light wieght barrel for the 8mm and am thinking of a weatherby untra light action.
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Yukoner, you mentioned big bear with the 8x308 Norma. Got a story? No not really, just that everything that it was ever pointed at got sorted out in a hurry. With all the 8mm bullets that are easily available today, I'm sure it would perform at least as well. BTW, I checked and those 196 gr Norma Dual Cors are no longer available. They are quite different construction than the Swift, not bonded and no partition. The Swift should actually be a better bullet.
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Yukoner..thanks for the post..We do like the Swift. We got the draw for Elk in Co. this fall. Ryan will be shooting the 220 Swift. I don`t know bout your experience with bullet expansion, but when we shot this bullet into a gallon milk jug filled with water, the jug mostly was gone. I know the bullet did not come apart totally, but wonder if the front portion before the belt is designed soft on purpose. I was impressed with the results..Now please don`t jump all over me in that this is not a scientific test of Swift bullets..I would be the first to agree..but I`ve shot enough bullets of vairing construction and cals. at jugs to make some determination of performance on game. This bullet looks like it will produce a massive wound channel, with the base holding together, to drive through the animal. Yes/no? Anyone?
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If you have a wild hair. Check out (AHR Cartridges ) i think u can find them on net useing AHR Cartridges, or try Howell Cartridges or ( www.hunting-rifles.com ) They offer a lengthened cartridge off the 30-06 case. The cases are 2.6 inches long. Standard length action and according to there printed ballastics impressive. They dont offer a 8mm, but could neck up a 30 cal.
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