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Originally Posted by RobJordan
She is an intellectual lightweight who does not have the gravitas or intelligence to capture independent voters in sufficient numbers for the Republicans to win in 2012. As an example, look as her grammer and syntax in the Hannity interview, She is such a simpleton. She is in over her head---and I say that as a rock-ribbed conservative.


Yeah, the community organizer was so much better prepared to lead.

Truman was a simpleton. Bush 43 and LBJ were hardly orators of the highest caliber. Grammar and syntax? And that's grammar with an "a", by the way.

I don't know if she is an answer, but the bar has been lowered so far for the office that I hardly consider grammar and syntax as important as say... integrity and intent.


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I've met Sarah. As Governor, Sarah has helped our community get out from under some onerous bureaucrats......I like Sarah a lot, but I do not consider her as presidential material....but we have elected several that are not presidential material: Obama, W, Clinton, CARTER etc.....

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I agree there's not much difference between Dems and Repubs. Both are so concerned with getting reelected and buying votes with welfare dollars they've lost their backbone to stand for the principles upon which our country was founded. Again, I must ask...Is this really the best we can put forward for the highest office in our country? Where are the Jeffersons, Franklins, Washingtons, Madisons? Are there none anywhere to be found? Why do we continually have to vote for the candidate who will do the least damage rather than the one who will do the most good?

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She was right on last night when she said we were heading towards Socialism. And the other media coverage I saw of her this morning surprisingly didn't put too much of a liberal spin. I would almost say they presented her pretty objectively, almost. I think the media must be getting chapped lips or something cause even they aren't kissing BO's ass as much anymore.


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Well, you could be California or a host of blue states that are teetering on bankruptcy.
Yeah but, we are not...


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Originally Posted by Foxbat
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She is an intellectual lightweight who does not have the gravitas or intelligence to capture independent voters in sufficient numbers for the Republicans to win in 2012. As an example, look as her grammer and syntax in the Hannity interview, She is such a simpleton. She is in over her head---and I say that as a rock-ribbed conservative.


Yeah, the community organizer was so much better prepared to lead.

Truman was a simpleton. Bush 43 and LBJ were hardly orators of the highest caliber. Grammar and syntax? And that's grammar with an "a", by the way.

I don't know if she is an answer, but the bar has been lowered so far for the office that I hardly consider grammar and syntax as important as say... integrity and intent.



Why isn't that we can find some one with both a razor sharp intellect and true conservative principals?

I suspect that in the next elections that being "plain spoken and folksy" as Sarah is will be strike one. First because the MSM wants someone with that speaks like a Ivy league grad and secondly because in many peoples mind plains spoken = mental lightweight = GWB and I doubt even 4 or 8 years of Obama is going to erase the public's disdain for GWB.

I might say Romney but

Romney isn't a bad speaker and he may be a good manager but I wouldn't say he is true solid conservative. In 8 years we don't need some one who will just steer us a few degrees to the right we need someone who can lead us through some significant changes to undo some of the wrongs of the last 80 years.


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Why isn't that we can find some one with both a razor sharp intellect and true conservative principals?


Because our political system weeds out that type. Someone with razor sharp intellect and great managerial skills isn't going into politics. Why would you submit yourself to be at the mercy of the MSM and the Democrat attack machine when you could make millions in business and not drag your family through that?

Look how they attacked Palin and her family? It wasn't because she was folksy, it was because that's how the liberals play the game. Lenin, Stalin and Castro didn't win over their populace with intelligent policies, they did it by cutthroat political guerrilla warfare which the Democrat Party has embraced with the help of the MSM.

Forbes was hyper intelligent and conservative, he ran and couldn't get out of the starting box...why? Because he doesn't have the cult of personality. The average American has an IQ near room temperature, they're not impressed by hyper intelligence, they're impressed by "cool", "Panache" and "swagger". Just read JeffO swooning over Obama all the time, not a bit of substance.

American's have gotten what they deserve because they ignore history and value personality over beliefs.


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Why isn't that we can find some one with both a razor sharp intellect and true conservative principals?


Because our political system weeds out that type. Someone with razor sharp intellect and great managerial skills isn't going into politics. Why would you submit yourself to be at the mercy of the MSM and the Democrat attack machine when you could make millions in business and not drag your family through that?

Look how they attacked Palin and her family? It wasn't because she was folksy, it was because that's how the liberals play the game. Lenin, Stalin and Castro didn't win over their populace with intelligent policies, they did it by cutthroat political guerrilla warfare which the Democrat Party has embraced with the help of the MSM.

Forbes was hyper intelligent and conservative, he ran and couldn't get out of the starting box...why? Because he doesn't have the cult of personality. The average American has an IQ near room temperature, they're not impressed by hyper intelligence, they're impressed by "cool", "Panache" and "swagger". Just read JeffO swooning over Obama all the time, not a bit of substance.

American's have gotten what they deserve because they ignore history and value personality over beliefs.


You nailed it. We could have had Steve Forbes and we ended up with GW. We Republicans have no one to blame but ourselves.


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Originally Posted by AkMtnHntr
Sure wish she would concentrate on Alaska before getting all worked up over the next presidential run. Lots of unhappy folks up here........


It would be nice if she practised what she preached. IMO


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Out of curiousity , what all has Sarah done as Alaska's governor that has not been of a conservative nature ??


As far as her accent goes, she just sounds like all the folks around these parts.....it'ud be a welcome relief from Bammy's arrogant rhetoric.

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Originally Posted by hunter01
BO with bring this country back. Just give him time. Bush messed it totally up in only 8 years. That won't be repaird overnight.



did someone leave the "dumbasses welcome" sign on? Obama has done more damage to the Republic in six months than any president in history....and he's going to keep on doing it full speed ahead while he has his congressional majority and the government owned press on board. People will be looking back on the six year boom under Bush as the good old days......some already are.


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Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
Out of curiousity , what all has Sarah done as Alaska's governor that has not been of a conservative nature ??


As far as her accent goes, she just sounds like all the folks around these parts.....it'ud be a welcome relief from Bammy's arrogant rhetoric.


Her heavy tax on energy producers was right out of the liberal playbook. That said, she is very conservative, which I like. Her conservatism is what appeals to me about her, but in my opinion, she simply lacks it between the ears.


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Actually, if one was to believe the tv machine, there are NO intelligent Republicans. Virtually EVERY conservative was either stupid or just a bumpkin. I guess it takes a really smart human to be clueless as to what their genitals are for, or be able to actually provide for their family, rather than depend on THE GOVERNMENT. And religion, yeah, that is for the weak minded, but only Christianity. The rest are okay. America is also evil. The liberal mind views such things as no cable tv in prison, to be unbearable hardship. Soft minded, and soft bodied, they are dependent on others for their sustenance and thought. This is the America that elected BO. This is not my America. Get out there and vote, people. Don't let them win.

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It is because of blind azzholes like you that this country is in the mess it is in. You voted for 'Dumbo' TWICE. We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!" Clinton will/is in the history books as one of the best presidents ever. Face it. You'd never admit to that, I know. On the other hand, Bush is also in the history books. In the books as the president to leave office with the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in the history of our nation. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.

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Whether or not Sarah runs for an office, the Republican Party needs to hear her out as the GOP hasn't their poop in a group for some time now.

There is a huge fracture between urban and rural in this country and Sarah represents rural folks as well as anyone.

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Originally Posted by hunter01
It is because of blind azzholes like you that this country is in the mess it is in. You voted for 'Dumbo' TWICE. We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!" Clinton will/is in the history books as one of the best presidents ever. Face it. You'd never admit to that, I know. On the other hand, Bush is also in the history books. In the books as the president to leave office with the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in the history of our nation. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.
Been hitting the bong a little too heavy lately?? What a ridiculous post.


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Hunter01 sounds like your typical Youngstown unemployed union idiot. They drink the koolaid a little bit heavy there.


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Originally Posted by hunter01
It is because of blind azzholes like you that this country is in the mess it is in. You voted for 'Dumbo' TWICE. We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!" Clinton will/is in the history books as one of the best presidents ever. Face it. You'd never admit to that, I know. On the other hand, Bush is also in the history books. In the books as the president to leave office with the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in the history of our nation. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.


what liberal handbook did you copy that out of?
have you looked around at what BO has done and what the ramifications are? or are you going to ride that burning plane into the ground because you wont admit its crashing?


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Originally Posted by hunter01
It is because of blind azzholes like you that this country is in the mess it is in. You voted for 'Dumbo' TWICE. We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!" Clinton will/is in the history books as one of the best presidents ever. Face it. You'd never admit to that, I know. On the other hand, Bush is also in the history books. In the books as the president to leave office with the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in the history of our nation. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.



Is it hard to type this crap with obammy's bam-bam dangling between your lips or can you just multi-task? crazy

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Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
Out of curiousity , what all has Sarah done as Alaska's governor that has not been of a conservative nature ??


The stuff that bothers me is stuff like Alaska has the highest tax on oil in the world. Some Magazines have likened her to Chavez the dictator in So. America. Either she doesn't believe in capitalism or doesn't support it. The oil companies have really slowed down drilling and exploration because there is just no money in it. The bigger the oil company the more she seems to hate them. She contracted with a Canadian company to lay out the path for the gas pipeline and determine a cost for it because she preferred to NOT work with American oil companies. Then she put in an extremely strict penalty of TRIPLE DAMAGES if someone else comes along after her and tries to get rid of them. She is paying them 1/2 a billion dollars for this when an oil company is doing the same thing as we speak, invested more money and is costing the state NOTHING.

She added over 1000 people to the state payroll her first year. The budget is out of control. There was a state hiring freeze for e months, and something like 536 exceptions were called for and she approved all but 2. If she tries to add an extra $500 million to the budget but ends up knocking out $50 million her take on it is that she took $50 million out ouf the budget...

She hired way to many people in her cabinet that were just old cronies that are so lost they don't know which way to go or what to do. She won't have department meetings and won't give department heads any direction at all. Because she doesn't have a clue. So many of her ways is sounds like McCain.

I do like how she has "managed" wildlife and that she can ignore what people from out of state thinks about her handling of wolves and such to try to get the ungulate population back which is in very poor shape in many areas. I don't dislike her at all I just don't agree with the tax and spenders from either party. She talks a good line but doesn't seem to know how to get there.



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