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Looks an old Cossack Sword
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Depending on blade length it is either an infantry Officers Saber 29-30 inches or a Cavalry Officers 33-35 inches long.
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It looks like it has a cannon on it in photo number 6 . May be a Artillery Officer sword.
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It's an 1800's army saber can't tell much more than that just looking.
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It looks like an artillery sword. The etching on the blade also looks like a cannon. How long is it both blade and overall?
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I'm thinking it is too straight for an artillery sword possibly a cav saber but looks a bit short for that too.
The sheath has lost its trail and that would tell you something.
Looks to be a different style than CW but Lord knows lots were pressed into service for use in that conflict.
It reminds me more of a hanger from the War of 1812 period.
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It looks too straight to be a cavalry saber, it's a foot soldiers sword. The hilt seems similar to 1840-1860's Union issue. The scabbard isn't cavalry style.
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I'm thinking it is too straight for an artillery sword possibly a cav saber but looks a bit short for that too.
The sheath has lost its trail and that would tell you something.
Looks to be a different style than CW but Lord knows lots were pressed into service for use in that conflict.
It reminds me more of a hanger from the War of 1812 period.
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Arty swords were straight, well many of them. And the pommel looks right. Maybe about 1812. This website is copyrighted so I can't cut-n-paste the image. http://arms2armor.com/Swords/1821ios.htm
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1821 British arty officers pig sticker. ![[Linked Image]](http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/JGHopkins/Victorian%20Swords/Phillips/ERP2.jpg) Ahhh, looky this... ![[Linked Image]](http://www.horsesoldier.com/catalog/362-246b.JPEG) Compared to yours... ![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/bea175/sword4.jpg)
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Well, on very first guess, it looks similar to the US Army 1850 Foot Officer's sword and the French 1845 Officer's Sword. But, of course, the Civil War was a come as you are experience and much of the weaponry did not conform to any military standards. Here's some examples: French 1845 Officer's Sword http://arms2armor.com/Swords/fren1845.htmUs Model 1850 Foot Officer's Sword http://arms2armor.com/Swords/1850fos.htmChuck
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Well, on very first guess, it looks similar to the US Army 1850 Foot Officer's sword and the French 1845 Officer's Sword. But, of course, the Civil War was a come as you are experience and much of the weaponry did not conform to any military standards.
French Officer's Swords tend to have broken tips from being dropped!  With regards the original picture, it might be worth taking the sword into a local Museum and see what they say...If nothing else, I bet they could point you to source for a definative answer...
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Yep I believe that's it or real close.
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Shreck and Chuck, you all may be right but what is putting me off is the leather wrapped sheath with what looked like was once a short metal trail now missing.
Leather covered sheaths for sabers went out @ Mexican War didn't they? Went to all metal.
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Shreck and Chuck, you all may be right but what is putting me off is the leather wrapped sheath with what looked like was once a short metal trail now missing.
Leather covered sheaths for sabers went out @ Mexican War didn't they? Went to all metal.
BCR Not this 1850 sword for sale, "Come w/fine scarce sharkskin scabbard" $3750 and it's yours. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.horsesoldier.com/catalog/169-146b.JPEG)
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Perhaps the sheath isn't the original. If it saw CW duty, the sword could have been picked up from the battlefield (during or just after) and a sheath grabbed that looked like it would fit.
If picked up by a Southerner, sometimes you made do.
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OK there you go. I was just going on foggy memory. Think I will pass on the frog sticker at that price though.  BCR
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I'm curious now, how about some better pix/description of the etching on the blade.
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I'm curious now, how about some better pix/description of the etching on the blade. If this was an "issue" item, wouldn't you expect some sort of official nomclamenture inscribed somewhere in the blade? I'm thinking of things like a makers mark perhaps, serial number ect?
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Perhaps the sheath isn't the original. If it saw CW duty, the sword could have been picked up from the battlefield (during or just after) and a sheath grabbed that looked like it would fit.
If picked up by a Southerner, sometimes you made do. Ain't that the truth. I have a picture of my G-Grandfather taken in Galveston in 1861 and he is holding his saber. He was a 1st Lt in Wauls Legion. The saber is an 1812 Eagle head. God alone knows what happened to it post war. My grandfather rememberd it being in the house when he was a boy but could not remember where it went. BCR
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