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Or simply detest? You can only have one choice, so do some thinking. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
For me, it's simple. Everytime I think of the 30-30, it just pisses me off for some reason. It gets my vote.
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That's easy for me - it's the .243! It's too big for varmints and too small for deer. I don't give a rip what the 'experts' have to say. I owned 2 and I will NEVER own another <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
How in the world can a .30-30 get under anyone's skin <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> That caliber at least knows where it belongs and our forefathers sure got a lot of use out of it. I shot my first deer in 1959 with a .30-30. Of the 14 hunters on that outing, 12 carried .30-30s. That was in the North Woods a little South of Canada.
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30-06, it's old dog.............................just kidding, I don't like 30-06 not that theres anything wrong with it. just the people whom own and brag it up as if it's the only thing to own. I like to be different sometimes.
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Just a side note, venting is encouraged.
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Any of the worthless RUM's,
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30-06 here too. I don't know why but I have never owned one and never will. I have shot a few of them but could never own one. Just my 2c. Drop
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.219 wasp, 218 bee, 6mmBR, 7.62x39, 22 magnum,
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243 win for same reason lightfoot stated...............
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I dont dislike any cartridge but I dont think I will ever have a use for any pistol cartridge in a rifle (44 rem mag rifle,44-40 rifle,38-40 rifle,357 rifle,ect, ect.) I like these cartridges in pistols and do own some but think putting them in a rifle is a waste of time.
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No contest! 243 Winchester! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> Hate the dang things .For a number of reasons....
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Any cartridge whose only claimed purpose is to duplicate an existing cartridge's performance on a half-ounce lighter or half-inch shorter platform.
Other than that, mebbe the 270 Win. or anything with a belt on it. Yep, the 30-06 is stodgy and too mundane for some, but it still kills stuff dead with boring regularity. Probably why I only own one now and seldom use it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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Aha!!! A chance to flame the old 7 MM Remington Magnum! I have had three of them, and currently own one, a Remington Classic, but will never own another when I dispose of this one in an honest manner. Recen tly, it has come to light that the 7 Remington Magnum exhibits pressure swings ( a trait shared by the 243, by the way), so to keep the top of the pressure swings with safe limits, the 7 Rem Mag is loaded down to much slower velocities than when it was introduced. In its current loadings and with hand loads prescribed by current loading manuals, the 7 Magnum has little advantage over the 270 or 280. However, the 7 Remington Magnum, at least in the rifles I have fired seems to have much more recoil than a 270 or 280. I see no reason to put up with the larger, heavier cartridges, the heavier rifles that 7 Mags are normally chambered in or the increased recoil for a cartridge that is so marginally superior to non belted cartridges.
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17RF, can't shoot it if there is any wind, can't reload it, ammo costs way too much.
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22 magnum is just about perfect for ground squirrel hunting.
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well for deer hunting (the deer hunting I do) I would take a 308 over a 30-06, actually I use a 7mm-08 instead, I want a lighter more compact rifle and still have somewhat low recoil and still have the killing power that is needed, and the 7mm-08 (or 308)fits the bill. if I need more power for bigger game or longer range, I will just use my magnum. I know so many people in real life that it starts and ends with the 30-06.................it's ok but boring
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I don't care for belted magnum cartridges. I'm not against them. I hate that unneeded belt. It's a shame someone years ago didn't do away with that POS belt. I understand the bias against the 30-06. Anything that is used as a standard to measure against will catch flack. It's not a super cartridge but more a jack of several trades so it isn't the best at anything. BTW, I love mine! I do hate 7mm Rem mag owners telling me how their mag will out perform a 30-06. Yes on paper it does look better but these guys are talking inside 100 yards and I don't see their argument. 300 yards is my max range. I have a .243 now too. 20 years ago if you would have told me I'd own one to deer hunt with I would have laughed at you. I think it's a wonderful cartridge. I wouldn't use a .243 for a "Texas heart shot" but I wouldn't take one anyway. My son bought me a 7-08 recently. I'm sure I'll like it's performance too. I can't say I truly hate any cartridge. None have treated me wrong. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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It's great to see that so many on this forum reflect my feelings about a number of cartridges. My least favorite is probably the .264 Win Mag.. I've owned two and neither were particularly accurate and very picky about loads. The 1st one gave sticky extraction with starting loads of H-4831. Both are history. I say Good Riddance!.
Of course, I don't care for the 7mm Mag any better. For my money, in equal bbl lengths, it doesn't have much on the .280. I do however own a 7mm STW.
For reasons already spoken, I don't much care for the .243 Win . Like a previous poster said, "Too big for a varmint rifle, and not big enough for deer"! I do have one tho'. A Low wall Browning, 1885. But as soon as I can get it to Al Siegrist, it's gonna be a .260. (Maybe even a .260 AI) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Ah!!! I feel much better, now! Let the flames begin! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Any Weatherby cartridge over .270.
Any of the PPC/BR type -- itty-bitty cartridges with excessively straight walls, made to be fired in single-shots strapped to a railroad tie.
Any 6.5 other than the 6.5x55 or POSSIBLY .260 Rem. -- have to give that one a dispensation since Finn Aagaard liked it.
.410 shotgun, but this is the rifle forum.
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Without hesitation the 270win.It is larger than necessary for deer sized game yet on the small side for elk or moose.
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