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Some of that tribe's casino winnings are going to be "reappropriated." Sad story.

Sometimes, the ignorance by a law enforcement officer carrying weapons knows no bounds! Their opinion; I (the officer) legally can point a firearm at you, and if I decide it necessary, shoot you, therefore, I am right, always! McCollum is the single greatest person responsible for this miscarriage, his leadership alone is responsible for his officers mis-actions!

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not cool

If its hunting season those officers of the law should have called the DNR or local F&W and it should have only taken minutes to clear up.

The hunters were armed but that is no reason the have guns drawn...accidents do happen Those who only put faith in Jesus Christ understand what I am saying. There is no reason to fear anything of this earth, only the judgement of our Lord.

Wow. What a clusterf*(( . . .

Sue, sue, sue.

I might be hunting someones A$$ next time !

I have been held at gun point twice in my life. My brother in law and I dumped a 2 point bull elk down in a hell hole. We walked up to it and there was a young kid starting to gut it. I said, "That's my elk, what are you doing?" Just then, his dad and uncle rode out of the brush on horses. They all racked shells into their rifles, pointed them at us and said, "That's our elk and you best walk away right now!" I crapped down both legs! I couldn't believe what was happening! I showed them the ONE bullet hole in the bull and the blood trail we had been following. They said, "I don't give a bleep about no blood trail. That's our elk, now get out of here!!" I told them to choke on the meat and wandered off into the brush. I set up about 300 yards from them and thought long and hard about dumping their horses, but thought better of it and just walked away. I can't tell you how P.O.ed I was. I ran into and LEO about 3 hours later and told him the story. He said, "Since I didn't see it happen, there isn't anything I can do about it. It is your word against theirs." ugg...I know how the guys in the article felt.

The very next year I dumped a 29" 4x4 mulie down in a hell hole. Three guys come out of the brush with loaded rifles and said, "That's our deer, we shot it and you aren't getting it!" I argued for a minute with them over the "one" bullet hole in it through the lungs (I shot it broad side, they said it was facing them). They said, "I don't care where you shot it from, it's ours!" I told them to choke on it and walked away. I ended up getting a 30.5" huge nonetypical the next day, but it still frosts me. That wasn't a good year in the woods for me. Flinch

Geez, Flinch, I don't whether I should be hunting with you, or just hunting near you . . .

Well....if you hunt near me, you can wait until the guys that jumped me get the animal out to the road, then jump them and take it....LOL. At least you will get a big critter with little or no work.

My uncle shot a fork horn way back when. It was a really tough year in the economy and there were a lot of desperate people that were out of work. He got jumped on the trail by two guys at gun point. They took his buck and told him to get lost. He went up on the hill and watched them drag it out to the road. They left it in the bushes to go get their truck, which was parked on the side of the road about half a mile away. He ran down to the buck, emptied his rifle into it, reloaded and dumped 5 more rounds into it (Winchester .30-30), then took off. He said, "If I can't have the meat, neither can they!" There wasn't a good piece of meat left on the buck. It was a sad waste of an animal, but I can see his point. He is a little guy about 130 lbs. 5.5. Not much he could do about the situation. Times are getting tough again. Better watch my back this year ;o) Flinch

I've heard stories of this happening over the years, and I just feel really lucky that I've never had someone try to steal an animal from me. Don't know how I'd react, other than I'm pretty sure I'd be stupid enough to tell them, "No."
You probably did the best thing.

Flinch,

I can tell you this.....if those guys pointed their guns @ me and one of my hunting crew I wouldn't have dumped their horses. I would have dumped them. Take my animal, but dont point your gun at me unless you plan on using it.

Our area is full of spotlighters and my cousin who is my main hunting partner will shoot the spotlight if he catches them on our property.

....BUT, had you or I shot them, we would go to prison forever, not them. I knew they weren't going to shoot me. They were just acting tough and I wasn't going to get them riled up, just to see if they would shoot me. Killing someone over an animal isn't remotely worth it to me. I couldn't live with myself. I can walk away and hunt again. Sure it sucks, but that is the way of the world.

You would actually kill someone for spotlighting? You gotta be kidding me! So what if it is the "poacher's" 10 year old son sitting behind the light doing as "Dad tells him to do"? You shoot through the light and kill an innocent kid, because he was spotlighting? Good luck in court with that one. The prosecuting attorney asks you, "Was your life ever in danger as the poachers spot lighted your property? Were they hurting anything? Were they actually poaching, or looking for a lost dog?" Voluntary manslaughter 25-life. Case dismissed. All that over someone with a spotlight. I sure as heck would get after them, but not go shooting at lights. I will walk away and live another day out of court and out of jail. Animals aren't worth dying over. That is the problem with society, life doesn't mean anything any more. People are killing people over stupid crap. Just look at all the gangs killing each other over "disrespect" or turf or over a stupid girlfriend. Oh well, life goes on. Flinch

I think that this kind of behavior will continue to get worse because the "poachers" know that honorable hunters wouldn't kill someone over an animal. I wouldn't kill someone over an animal but if a gun was pointed at me, they had better prepare for 18 rounds of 10mm coming their way, and a reload! That is the only way to stop a bully, stand up to him. Getting your teeth knocked out over some lunch money isn't worth it either but if you keep giving up your lunch money without a fight, the bully will never stop. I'm glad to know that there are still at least a few people in this country that will stand on principles and not puss out in the face of evildoers.

In 2005 in Wyoming on a public land deer hunt, one of our group shot one and had to trail it. Took about an hour to catch up to the deer. Where he found a gut pile and drag marks to the nearest road. No animal. Nice, but at least no one got guns pointed at them.

This ties in with the ATV issue. If you hunt in areas near the road or where ATVs are tolerated then you have a higher potential of running into people and let's face it, most of them are not people I would consider inviting to a party.

I put an elk down two weeks ago in a wilderness area. I quartered it and carefully skinned him for a rug. I sat there for ten minutes and debated whether I should hump the 6x6 rack back to camp. I left everything only because it was so far off the beaten path that lazy truck hunters and ATV riders would be nowhere near it. I stressed out until we came back in 3 days later to hump it out.

It's a real shame that we have to deal with azz monkeys but you do what you can.

Wow, never had anything like that happen. It's easy to think you'd turn John Wayne on those guys but reality sets in and you realize that your gun is late to the party and they are already drawn on you. That hopefully you have more to live for than those idiots.
Flinch, I commend you on your retraint.

It ain't worth the costs to kill them.

Maybe karma will even the score. If so I hope they come back as maggots. :-)

Are you saying you left the meat, with the horns for 3 days before you went back to retrieve the horns?