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Eremicus, I just asked you a simple question about your LE work cause you said something to the effect of working with "fellow officer/cops...) and I didn't know that you were on a department. If you don't care to discuss it, that's fine with me as I was not trying to be intrusive or personal. I was on a rather small department here in NJ (28 uniforms, small detective bureau), traffic division, one K9 and two DARE officers for 20 years, so it's not like I'm claiming to have been some big shot city cop with vast street battles/hand to hand combat, although I have been stabbed twice during DV incidents and have several Mexican standoff's with crack heads and other EDP' throughout the years. And yes, I have the scars to prove it as well. Most of our work was with DV, EDP's, burglary investigations (many), aided cases, MVA's, drug investigations (not on large scales) several homicides and robberies. Like I said, wasn't trying to get personal.

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I'd also like your take on needing adjustable sights on duty type weapons (handguns that is) and why the need for good accuracy on a gun that will likely never be used at any kind of distance. If I'm not mistaken, the FBI used to have figures based on distances that are typically recorded in street altercations which tend to happen very quickly. I seem to recall a figure at one time that was less than 10ft. Usually at those distance you are most concerned with just avoiding death. Not saying that fixed don't have any place what-so ever, it just kinda low on the wish list. In short, all I'm saying is that want a gun that fits the hand well, dead reliable and hit what it's pointed at, again for reasons of fit.

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Originally Posted by Eremicus
Why dood ? So you can continue to argue and fight ? Just as I thought.
What standards others wish to apply to determine what's the best is up to them. I respect the opinions of guys like MS and a few others here. They can teach me something.
But this kind of "discussion" with you is a waste of my time. E

Asking you what department you served on is wanting a fight?

Feeling a little paranoid?

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spehling- welcome to the sight. Don't judge us all by this thread. Some folks just have a need.......aw F -it , you know what I mean. You are dead right about this forum. It is supposed to be a campfire for buddies, not a schoolyard for bullies. Glad to have you on board.


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wow- didn't take you for an art lover. Gotta think a mellow concerto would do you some good. Good for you dood. Take a breath and reflect.

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Originally Posted by RDFinn
I'd also like your take on needing adjustable sights on duty type weapons (handguns that is) and why the need for good accuracy on a gun that will likely never be used at any kind of distance. If I'm not mistaken, the FBI used to have figures based on distances that are typically recorded in street altercations which tend to happen very quickly. I seem to recall a figure at one time that was less than 10ft. Usually at those distance you are most concerned with just avoiding death. Not saying that fixed don't have any place what-so ever, it just kinda low on the wish list. In short, all I'm saying is that want a gun that fits the hand well, dead reliable and hit what it's pointed at, again for reasons of fit.
I don't see adjustable sights as being important on a CCW. Just more to snag on clothing, and/or more parts to potentially break. On a hunting handgun, sure. I've never appreciated them on a CCW, however.

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Originally Posted by spehling
As I sit here thinking, I cant believe I wasted the last 15 minutes reading these posts. I just recently joined 24hourcampfire.com and I hope this is not an example of normal behavior here. No need to waste your time replying to me, I won't engage in this rediculous activity, just hoping some people decide to calm down and not feed on "aggressive discussion". I'm not sure but, I dont think this forum was designed for hostile conversation.........just a thought.


Welcome aboard Spehling, the 'fire is usually a rather friendly place, but it does have its warts as you've seen. There is a way to put the trolls on ignore, I'll bet you can figure out a couple who are worthy of that feature already.


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Originally Posted by Son_of_the_Gael
Welcome aboard Spehling, the 'fire is usually a rather friendly place, but it does have its warts as you've seen. There is a way to put the trolls on ignore, I'll bet you can figure out a couple who are worthy of that feature already.
Just imagine if Hunter1960 were still here? What would Spehling think of us then? laugh

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Thanks for the welcome, I look forward to future "good" conversation.

Thanks for the tip on the ignore feature.


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Originally Posted by kenjs1
wow- didn't take you for an art lover. Gotta think a mellow concerto would do you some good. Good for you dood. Take a breath and reflect.

Weak, man, weak.

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Breathe. Unclench.


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Originally Posted by spehling
As I sit here thinking, I cant believe I wasted the last 15 minutes reading these posts. I just recently joined 24hourcampfire.com and I hope this is not an example of normal behavior here. No need to waste your time replying to me, I won't engage in this rediculous activity, just hoping some people decide to calm down and not feed on "aggressive discussion". I'm not sure but, I dont think this forum was designed for hostile conversation.........just a thought.

You know...I was an azzhole to you, and I want to apologize. This is a silly thread, but I'm enjoying parts of it, so I continue to post. I regret alienating you as I did and I regret that you felt this was an aggressive discussion. Most threads are not like this one. Many threads have valuable information on them and the folks are friendly too. Again, my apologies, and I hope you find the rest of the camp fire to your liking.

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Breathe. Unclench.

I give. You win.

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G-lock is a fine weapon for those who like it. I don't because of the ergonmics.....it just does not fit my hand.


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Originally Posted by elkhunter76
I don't because of the ergonmics.....it just does not fit my hand.


All the difference, right there. Which is the same reason I can't like the Glocks in 9x19, or .40sS&W/.357Sig, but dote HEAVILY on the G20 10mm. Oh, and I can't stand the XDs for the ergo reason stated.

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XD and Glock feal identical to me...


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Originally Posted by spehling
As I sit here thinking, I cant believe I wasted the last 15 minutes reading these posts. I just recently joined 24hourcampfire.com and I hope this is not an example of normal behavior here. No need to waste your time replying to me, I won't engage in this rediculous activity, just hoping some people decide to calm down and not feed on "aggressive discussion". I'm not sure but, I dont think this forum was designed for hostile conversation.........just a thought.

You know...I was an azzhole to you, and I want to apologize. This is a silly thread, but I'm enjoying parts of it, so I continue to post. I regret alienating you as I did and I regret that you felt this was an aggressive discussion. Most threads are not like this one. Many threads have valuable information on them and the folks are friendly too. Again, my apologies, and I hope you find the rest of the camp fire to your liking.
Thank you. accepted.


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Magnumdood -that was a class apology. Glad to see you wanting to put an end to the silliness. Have a good one.


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