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Blaine: The author of that piece is a pretty good guy. There's another article in there somewhere about rifle failures in PH school in Zimbabwe that is also an eye opener, but as you can see, most of those guys are died-in-the-wool CRF guys. That's a pretty good website actually. It's a good place to rumage through the archives and find all sorts of stuff. It also has a relatively new forum dedicated to African hunting. Take care and as we say on my side of our line of work, "keept it in the middle" (meatball). jorge

How about a good lightweight 22LR? Everybody needs a 22!!! -- no <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Quite an interesting and thought provoking post.



Most of my experience has been with Rems from the 788, the BDL, to the custom shop KS Mountain rifle. Being a lefty limited me to those offerings. I've also had or own Win 70s, Brownings, Rugers (#1s), Savages, kimbers, Sauers, and Blasers, models where leftys were offered.



My hunting has almost exclusively been with the Rems though however rarely in stock form. In my 700s, I've replaced the triggers, the safetys, the extractors, the barrels, and the stocks; tapped the recievers to accept 8x40s. These I considered improvements on the platform. In essence the only thing Rem left was the action. This isn't bashing or being for or against.



It's been well said already that there are both strengths and weaknesses in every makers rifle's design. There is no use reiterating the advantages relative to other designs of the 700 for a custom job, but that's not to say it's the answer for all seasons or locations or circumstances. But most smithys generally like it just fine.



My one failure and not an insignificant one on a hunting trip for elk was a broken extractor with factory .338 ammo (before I routinely changed stock exractors on a "serious" rifle); this small broken part relegated me to the part of scout and mule for my partner which I should add he took advantage of <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />



This doesn't touch the PF vs. CRF issue in regard to DG and I don't have African or DG experience other than brown bear although I hope to have African soon.



I would reiterate what has already been said: that WITHIN REASON with the rifles available today, the operator and his facility with the weapon he is holding is of greater weight than any make or style of weapon and I'll add, even caliber(again, within reason).



Good day.



GDV

I might be guilty of bashing Remingtons but as far as I know thats been limited to the 710, not the 700. I grew up with the idea that Winchesters were the only bolt rifle to own thanks to relatives and such so I still have a sweet spot for them. I just know they are better, even if it is only in my mind. That said, I'm having a lot of fun lately with a cheap PF of scandinavian origin. I guess I have a hard time being brand faithful. Remington seems to have a flavor for every month and their new catalog has a model or two that could tempt me for sure. If you replaced the name on this thread, you could come up with almost the same responces.
Blaine, the issue of the safety ADs isn't always someone with their finger on the trigger. My buddy is a diehard Remmy loyalist and he told me of the .270 BDL he bought for his son. His son had an AD after releasing the safety. He chewed him a new ass for having his finger on the trigger. His boy was emphatic that he didn't. My friend said he repeated it twice without his finger on the trigger. Back in the case and off to Remington it went. It was returned saying they made an adjustment and it is fine now. Now that is first hand heresay on my part because I've never seen it happen and never had it happen to me when shooting 700s. Seems any little problem with any manufacturer gets blown so out of proportion on the net, it makes it unbelievable to those that never see it. I'm guilty of being one of those types myself. Ever heard of Glocks KBing?

nyagwai,

I'll help you bash the 710s..........

I have never said all ADs are the result of having your finger on the trigger. An improperly adjusted trigger or a manufacturing defect can also cause this, though it is very rare in the overall scheme of things. If I could just get guys to fully function test every rifle they bring home, most of the issues would be stopped bedore they ever started.

Blaine

Jorge,

The site appears to be a good one. Reading such stories helps us ensure we don't make the same mistakes. It will be fun when I finally make my Cape Buffalo hunt, especially if the PH questions me and my 700 in 416 rem. I'll just hand it to ham and tell him to make it fail................... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Blaine

Blaine, You got that right, even the best will turn out a lemon once in a while. It's how they deal with it when they do that makes or breaks them. They took care of my friend's rifle, got it back promptly and all is good.

I freely admit to being a Winchester Model 70 fan. My Classic Super Grades are the smoothest and best shooting rifles I have ever owned. I presently have three. However, I glass bed, float barrels, and work triggers to get them like I want them. I presently own two Remington 700s. One is a Classic .223 and the other a 7mm Ultra Mag Sendero. I have to say both shoot and function flawlessly. Their actions are no where near as smooth as the Winchesters but they are outstanding rifles nevertheless and they did not require as much tuning as the Winchesters. I believe you can get a good rifle (or bad one) in any make. Pay your money and take your chances.

This is an OLD thread...

But after all these years- you know- the triangle shaped barrels??? and the ugly stocks!! arggg. Remington... what happened???

I have a rem, 30-06, was made in the 80's, awesome gun. I purchased a rem 12ga shot gun for my son, an 870 with rifled and smooth barrel, the smooth barrel had pitting inside the barrel, and sent it to the company, they apologized and sent a new one, no big deal, the next year the ejector bar inside broke, everyone said the 870 is a manly gun not to be babied, and we do not baby it, but broke anyway.
ANYHOOO... with computer programs and technology the way it is, the guns should be 100% better than they were right? I am on the fence, but still love the guns I have.