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I guess I really poked your bubble there, MR. Broke-Back! You know the truth, the whole world knows the truth! Japan, Korea, China and all of the east uses child labor! It's basically hidden media because why? The market is making money off of sour people like you buying thier junk. Poor kids working in a factory 12 hours a day making junk. Believe me, I don't want to make a monkey out of you. Why should I take all the credit? Brains aren't everything. In fact, in your case they're nothing! Don't thank me for insulting you. It was my pleasure. I'm pretty sure you're one of those guys that have a Buckmark tattoo up his left butt cheek trying to win a cheap spaced-age browning rifle. You probably sport one of them big Browning stickers behind their window trucks and have a closet full of clothes that have a buckmark logo, HAHA! I bet you're also one of those guys that praise Scott Grange at every shotshow!

You are a liar and a clown. I just exposed your lies, easy enough to do because you're pretty stupid.

You have not answered any of the questions put to you regarding your accusations because you can't.

You know why? Because you are a liar. You're busted. Shined the light on your cock roach azz and sprayed you with the truth.

I enjoyed doing it, but next time don't make it so easy.

Now go put your clown nose on and stand in the corner until I tell you to come out.

Later punk

Take your Midas fishing rod and go fishing with your buddy! You two can take a horse ride up to broke-back and discuss where to place the next buckmark tattoo on. HAHAHA! Just admit it, there are better rifles than browning. It's a disgraced of you to have Mr. Brownings name as a screen name, he's about to crawl out of the grave with people like you. Since his death, anything with his name stamped on is nothing but junk. BBBBWWWWAAAAAAHAHHHHHHAAAAHAHHAHAH!!!!!!!!!

Are you 13? Your daddy should have whipped your azz with a fishing rod, if he had, maybe you wouldn't be such a lying idiot now.

All of your homo erotic fantasies are very telling. I guess you forgot which site you were on, you may now return to your gay porn.

The more you type, the more of your garbage can existance is revealed. Please continue, It's nice watching you meltdown, posting juvenile comments in order to avoid answering for your lies.

Still waiting on that evidence regarding your claims clown. You and Lee 24 must be kin.

Hope you are enjoying your internet beat down.

I know I'm enjoying it.

Ice cold coke -- check
Freshly popped popcorn -- check

Please continue.

I've been hunting with a .270 A Bolt for 22 years and it's always been dead on reliable. Besides this A Bolt, I have owned two in 300 WSM, one in 7mm-08 (wish I'd never sold that one), one in 7mmm Rem Mag and one in .308. I never had a problem with any of them. I recently purchased a new X Bolt in .270 WSM. Based on my experiences with the A Bolt and Browning in general, I think I will be just as pleased with the new X Bolt.

All rifles have issues of one kind or another at some point.

There are the Kimber fans that think Kimbers are handed down straight from God, and yet they will also tell you they have their issues and is a crapshoot. Or will tell you to work up the perfect handload for it, rather than expect it to shoot almost any load with good results. Quality? Doesn't shoot worth a [bleep], yet is the best rifle out there? I'll take a Browning.

Remingtons have their issues as well. I noticed one of the scope taps wasn't drilled deep enough for my old XCR and heard of many others with the same issue. Many issues in addition to that.

Winchester has had their issues which have recently been gone over in other threads on this forum. The new ones seem to be pretty good, aside from some not liking the new trigger.

Even the cheap, but very accurate Tikka has been bashed for having cheap plastic parts that break.

I've only had one Browning, but it was great. Put a Timney trigger spring in it and that thing would shoot. Should have held onto it, but didn't. Was a great rifle with no complaints.

I own several Weatherby, Remington, Winchester, Ruger and Browning rifles and one Browning shotgun. I am very pleased with Browning's quality and accuracy out of the box. I have a BAR Short Trac in 308 that shoots less than MOA and the new 30-06 X-Bolt is about the same. Besides my Weatherby Ultralight, the X-Bolt is my favorite rifle. My only complaint is the magazine. I am not crazy about the plastic, but it works fine. The fit and finish and quality of the X-Bolt is better than my Remington 700. I will more than likely look for an X-Bolt in 325 WSM.

Ahhh, Weatherby's and Brownings, the 2 rifles most love to hate.. I've had a couple BAR's, a 270 wby, and a 300 win, several A-bolts, 270 win,270 wsm, a couple 338's,.22, BLR 358. Never had a problem with em. All were easy to coax sub moa groups outta of, with factory fodder, with the exception of the 270 wsm, which I didn't give much of a chance. They also fit me better than all factory rifles, with the exception of weatherby. Buy it, chances are you'll dig it. Later

I have a Weatherby Ultra Light 270 Win. that fits me like a glove. I have a VX3L 3.5-10X50 on it and it shoots .75" if I shoot a group and then it it cool for a while. It is my favorite hunting rifle, but I think the X-Bolt will be a close runner up.

This is outrageous BS. I worked for Miroku (where Browning guns are made) in Japan for 2.5 years. There is absolutely, positively NO child labor in the Miroku plants. Japan is a modern nation. They have labor unions there. At Miroku at least, it is actually a violation of labor laws or labor agreements for any worker to work more than 3 hours overtime on any day. And a normal workday is actually somewhat less than 8 hours of work, so there are no 12 hour days there for anybody. If you work 3 hours overtime, you get a 10 minute break at the end of the regular day, plus another 10 minute break after the second hour of overtime.

I have visited Korea and China as well as Japan, and while I expect there is child labor in China it is an incredible show of ignorance to lump China and Japan together as if there was no difference. There is good and bad in both countries, but they are worlds apart. Just vastly different.

Fuzzbean

Excellent first post. A fresh breath of reality. It just goes to show that while everyone has an opinion, that doesn't make it so. The facts are the facts. Spouting lies helps no one.

So what did you work as?

I was a prototype machinist in the R&D department. Not usually true prototypes, as those are made by Browning engineers in Utah, but Miroku always had to make up a number of "Design Verification Test" guns, at least two of which would typically get fired 10,000 rounds, with numerous others being fired lesser amounts, maybe 1000 rounds. These guns would then serve as a guide for the production engineers, after the bugs were out. The first production guns would later be fired 10,000 rounds as well. As a matter of fact, although I was more involved in other projects at the time, I recall Miroku made up about 45 DVT guns for what became the X-Bolt. We spent about 8 months on that, and a LOT of money, then Browning was dissatisfied with the trigger mechanism and re-started the trigger from a clean sheet of paper just about the time I had to leave. That was when they added the release button on the bolt handle also.

I'm not here to either praise or criticize Browning, but Miroku is basically a good company. The production workers there are excellent, albeit working under the typical Japanese pressure to conform to group opinions and so forth. Because of labor unions and other factors, the Japanese manufacturers are running into the same high labor costs as we have in the United States. It is tough for Miroku to compete with the Chinese and Brazillians and Turks and Russians. They do not even own the design rights to anything they currently manufacture... products they perfected at great cost could be pulled away and sent to Russian factories... so the only leg they have to stand on is quality.

Fuzzbean, thanks for a dose of reality. Vital Kill, I've been on this forum for years. You are by far the biggest idiot I've ever encountered.

I bought a couple out of curiosity. Everything works and they maintain POI amazingly well for such skinny barrels.

I've heard all of the negatives about them, as to cheap metal in the triggers, seizing in frigid weather, etc. and the general bias against them.

I am more than pleased with both.

I'cw owned Brownings for a long time, I currently have 5 A-bolts in the safe. Never had a problem with any of them, and all are amazingly accurate.
When the X bolt came out I looked it over, felt the balance and really like the way it handles, the on;y complaint I have is the boxmagazine and the release for it. Don't care for how easy it is to release, I much prefer the Sako style release.
Finally got a chance to shoot a new X bolt yesterday, a 338 Win. mag. Accuracy was on par with any of the others I've shot, recoil was a bit heavy, but what do you expect out of a light rifle? Overall, pretty impressed with it and would buy one.

Did you happen to run into Lee24 there? He maybe designed the machinery used on the production floor.

I am happy enough with my .270 WSM X Bolt that I will be buying a 7mm-08 before next deer season rolls around. As far as the complaints on the plastic magazine, I wouldn't let it worry you too much. I've been carrying Glocks with plastic magazines on the job for 13 years and never had one go down on me. The plastic mag in my Tikka works just fine too. I actually like the plastic detachable mag; I think it's an upgrade vs. the hinged floor plate on the A Bolt. (those have never given me a problem either though)