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I need a set of .416 Weatherby reloading dies. When I checked my first choice was RCBS and they were nowhere to be found and the price was about $145.00 plus shipping, with a 90+ day delay. I checked Midway USA and found both Redding and Hornady in stock. I really don't have much experience with either brand. I bought a Hornady FL set in .308 about 23 years ago to load .307's, so I would have a different set, setup for .307's only. I bought a Redding 8mm Rem Mag set back in 2001 and we had a small house fire limited to one room and one of the carpenters must have borrowed them and has not remembered to return them. So..., these are my choices. The Redding FL set at $71.99 and the Hornady FL set at 65.99 plus shipping on either. There is so little price difference, I would like your opnion on which set is better. Thank everyone in advance!
Good shooting,
Marcus.
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Given a choice I take Redding over all others!
I have slowly replaced all of my older die sets with Redding's over the years.
I've only had one set of Hornady dies and they were OK but they were pistol dies so it's not the same comparison.
Mike
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Redding - Always
RCBS second.
Now you need some loads...I have owned 3 of them.
.416 Weatherby Magnum Page 1.
Bullet Load Powder O. A. L. Velocity Energy Comments
300gn Barnes SP 120gn IMR 4350 3049
121gn IMR 4350 3079 6313 25 inch barrel
118gn AR 2209 3020
119gn AR 2209 3034
115gn WIN 760 2961
116gn WIN 760 2996
120gn IMR 4831 3008
121gn H 4831 2772 Original H 4831
100gn IMR 4320 2836
102gn IMR 4320 2859
104gn IMR 4320 2932
300gn Barnes X 115gn AR 2209 2982 5924
117gn AR 2209 3.691" 3041 6162 Very Accurate Load
117gn WIN 760 2988
325gn Barnes X 115gn IMR 4831 2925 6176 Great long range load
118gn AR 2213 2824 Mild
120gn AR 2213 2884 6007
122gn WMR 2726
125gn WMR 2803 5671 MAX
335gn Trophy Bon 121gn Rel 19 2834 Light Recoil - easy shooting load
Bear Claws 123gn Rel 19 2874
120gn IMR 4831 2829
117gn AR 2209 2956 6501 Heavy recoil - full power load
340gn Woodleigh 120gn Rel 19 2890 6307
113gn AR 2209 2923
115gn AR 2209 2968
119gn IMR 4350 3074 MAX
121gn AR 2213 2949
123gn AR 2213 2992 6760
119gn IMR 4831 2966
121gn IMR 4831 2984 6724
113gn WIN 760 2901
115gn WIN 760 2926 6465
350gn Barnes X 112gn AR 2209 3.689" 2824
114gn AR 2209 2856 6341 1.1 MOA Top load
114gn IMR 4350 2846
118gn IMR 4831 2918
119gn IMR 4831 2925 6651
120gn H 4831 2729 Original H 4831
114gn AR 2213 2750 5869
116gn AR 2213 2800 6096
93gn IMR 4320 2529
95gn IMR 4320 2571 Mild easy shooting load
.416 Weatherby Magnum Page 2.
400gn Hornady RN 112gn IMR 4350 2731 6626 Full Factory Specs
112gn AR 2213 2585
114gn AR 2213 2607
111gn AR 2209 2745 6694 Full Factory Specs
112gn IMR 4831 2701
113gn H 4831 2530 Original H 4831
100gn AR 2209 2436 Duplicates Rigby Load
90gn IMR 4064 2455
95gn IMR 4064 2564
115gn Rel 19 2716
112gn H 4831 2578 New H 4831
116gn H 4831 2679 6376
400gn Barnes X 112gn IMR 4831 2680
112gn Rel 22 2580 mildly compressed load
113gn AR 2213 2626
108gn IMR 4350 2685
113gn Rel 19 2641
115gn Rel 19 2682
117gn Rel 19 2731 6626 1.127" Top load for heavy game.
410gn Woodleigh 90gn AR 2208 2406 Rigby Velocities
111gn AR 2209 2747
110gn H 4831 2447 Rigby Velocities Original H 4831
108gn IMR 4350 2697 6624
109gn IMR 4350 2704 6658
113gn AR 2213 2712 6523
112gn IMR 4831 2742 6680
AR 2209 is H 4350
AR 2213 is H 4831
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Thanks guys! That's what I need to know, plus the loads to go with it. You are the best! I will let you know how it shoots.
Good shooting,
Marcus.
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While Redding dies are nicer, Hornady has the better lock rings, a cross-cinch design. I'm not advocating purchasing the Hornady brand dies for the rings, but rather emphasizing the point that Redding is doing their customers a disservice in offering a deficient ring design. From my own impressions, Redding is reluctant to copy what they consider to be a Forster concept, stating (to me) that they don't feel the need to furnish a ring that will work in a Forster press. Customers actually prefer the cross-cinch design which locks squarely to the die threads. It doesn't make sense to me that Sinclair, Hornady, Lyman and Forster are able to produce the better design, but a company that professes to provide superior products makes their customers buy lock rings from a competitor if they want something better.
All of this is off-topic, but it has been an opportunity to press (sorry) Redding to reconsider their position.
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