Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles More Barnes TSX "failures" LOL!

I began using the 100 grain TSX in my .257 RBTS based on recommendations here off the Campfire. My Ruger M77 MKII would not shoot any 100 grain bullet well - the recommendation here was to try a TSX and RamShot Hunter powder. Bingo - great combination in my rifle. That rifle and load combo has killed two whitetail does this season; a shoulder shot was DRT, a heart shot (heart parts all over the lane) went 30 yards. Two rounds, two deer, and accurate too - can't argue with that.

If that's not a drunken post, I don't know what is

Yeah, that's me, no handloads, factory only... too funny.

This is the same guy that comes into the LRH forum and gives guys crap for taking long shots and claims they are unethical. then posts up this crap.

What a D-Bag

Don't be too harsh, his dad may not have told him the front end was for shooting, the rear end is for eating.

same same, 257 Roberts, 100 TSX over 46 grains of H4350, light recoil, accurate, and deadly.

Nice load.
BTW, folks just as an FYI, I ignore any posts from 858 as he has followed me across every internet site trying to make trouble. Obviously a case of an unbalanced mind. Thanks.

Sometimes yes, but your statement is not an absolute. Bullets can lose animals. Even with perfect placed shots. I have seen it. [/quote]

So why is it than an arrow thru the lungs, with no expansion, and a whole lot less shock, kill animals but a bullet that doesn't open up to 1.5X bore diameter doesn't? I'm confused. If the shot was perfect, it would have pierced both lungs(fatal) the heart(fatal) the spine(fatal) or the brain(also fatal) If you don't find the animal, then apparently you didn't do your job, don't blame the tool. At least that's what I was alway's taught.

Sir:

An arrow through the lungs and a non-expanded 308 caliber bullet through the lungs are two totally different situations. The arrow will in fact make a bigger wound channel and it will cut like crazy with the razor sharp edges.
Now the bullet (theoretically non expanded) will go through with little damage. It will look like a knittting needle hole through the vitals.
The animal will give up the ghost eventually but not anytime soon.
I have witnessed wounds like that in deer.


[Specifically a doe at 200 yards with a 180 gr Scirocco from a 300 Rum (mv 3250 fps). Looked like a hole with very minute tissue damage around the hole. In this particular situation the first lung hit looked like a knife wounded it. By the time the bullet traversed to the second lung and shoulder ---all mush! Wierdest thing I ever saw.]

Anyway, if both situations were equally destructive (or lack there of) bow hunters would lose their game consistantly.

A Muzzy through both lungs is more like a 45-70 500 than a high velocity expanding bullet. Both kill by bleeding out the animal like a knife wound.

A .308 non expanding bullet through the lungs will indeed make a much larger hole than will a knitting needle. Have you ever shot an animal with a non expanding bullet in 30 cal?

Have you? If so why? I mean please explain this why would you?


Am I the only one who feels strongly about this? Why do some states outlaw this?

The most dangerous game inthe world are routinuely shot with solids. Yes I have used non expanding bullets mostly in a handgun and they are very effective

Cast or FMJ's? You know the difference right? Cast bullets for big game hunting absolutely. Very effective.
FMJ?s Heck no not for me. You can not compare both due to meplat differences.

Of course I know the difference. Belt Mountain Puch Bullets have you heard of those?

Holy Bat Shiit Batman, can't believe folks can't know/grasp what and how a BIG cast bullet works.

Still laffin over the "Cast or FMJ's? You know the difference right?"

Thinking he asked the wrong pilgrim that question. I could understand asking JO.

Steelhead.


FMJ's for deer elk and moose from a rifle man? You agree with this?

we're talking rifle here.

You said a 308 cal FMJ remember?

You compared them to a kinitting needle, remember?


In the 60's when I was young and had not heard that a FMJ would not kill and could afford what I could afford I and a feww friends killed several Deer and Hogs with Millitary surplus FMJ bullets very dead very fast. Place them in the kill zone and they are MUCH MOORE than a Knitting needle

I've killed a few critters with hard cast bullets fired from rifles, will most likely do it again.

Ain't talking about FMJ

FMJ



Not FMJ