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I have other rifles. The 6.8 SPC would be interesting to carry in the woods, but, there are limitations...

Mind you, many deer and elk have fallen to 110gr-117 gr bullets travelling between 2600-2800 fps...

Again, maybe someone who's been in on many elk kills can confirm that they may be effective within certain limitations.


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Originally Posted by brooksrange

Mind you, many deer and elk have fallen to 110gr-117 gr bullets travelling between 2600-2800 fps...



Very similar numbers to 25 Remington (as mentioned before) and the 25-35 Winchester, although their bullets are long for caliber and the SPC is short for caliber.

Look for reports of elk hunting with them. But don't expect many. grin

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Elk deserve more respect. Kill them cleanly, Skip the stunt shooting.


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The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.

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BTW, I grew up in elk country and have killed a dozen or so with a .270. Respect your quarry and use an appropriate tool.


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Originally Posted by brooksrange
lots of them on the TV these days


Use it to kill your TV


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it can be done. here's my friend's huge cow elk shot at 47 yards.
yeah, it's not 200 or better, but it can kill cleanly at limited ranges.

why must one judge another of his rifle of choice ?

if it's accurate enough, has enough energy at a given range for proper penetration, why not ?
and how many elk have been killed with 30-30's, 35 remington's, and what about pistol shooters ? gonna tell me a 44 mag has more energy than a rifle ?

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guys, wake up, ar's are here to stay, and in the right hands, at responsible ranges, they work quite well.
as well as the gi's who carry one EVERYDAY, know an ar inside and out, are very proficiant with it, want to use something they are very familiar with.
unlike ALOT of you, that only pick up a rifle a few times a year, and hunt with it, not knowing all there is about it and how it shoots.

lighten up guys, look at the ballistics of the 6.8spc, it's a very effective round on HUMANS and animals.

and i guess we were bad evil hunters using 2moa l1a1's for antelope ?
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we had a great time with rifles we shoot often, and proved a point. so called assualt weapon's, have a sporting purpose.

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Even a .260 in a gas gun would be a better choice.

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My position has absolutely nothing to do with the style of weapon. The OP also started with the objective of trophy elk at 250 yards, and backpedaled down to raghorns, and now cows at close range.

Better tools exist. Simple as that.

I also notice in another ongoing thread that the OP commented regarding someone who successfully used a 7MM SAUM/160 Accubond on a bull would have been better off using a 300 Win Mag. If he believes that (and I am not sure I do) then he must not be surprised at getting trashed for suggesting the 6.8 SPC is at all in the same league.

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i agree, it's not in the same league as a much larger cartridge, i was just sayin, that at limited ranges, it will kill. now the nut behind the trigger has to make that decision, same as the guys using 223's and smaller for deer.


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Have you ever seen any of the critters that brooksrange has shot, with anything. I really look forward to seening some. CH


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I have no problem with the AR platform itself for hunting. The AR10, and 308Win-based chamberings have plenty of power.

In the original post, brooks' specifically queried about a 6.8mm 110gr bullet at 2600 fps MV, for elk at 250+ yards. It's a light, short, bullet only doing about 2100 fps at 250 yards. Going beyond 250 yds it just gets worse.

A 110gr TSX at 2800 fps, inside 100 yards or so, that's a little better. I'd still rather use a 30-06 or simlar.

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If you are truly"curious", read the ballistic science/math of the Optimum Game Weight formula in the Lyman 47th Reloading Manual, pp.139-146...please read ALL 7 Pages!

I am not an elk hunter, but the 6.8 SPC is a [bad] people cartridge, NOT a game cartridge.

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It a'int even the people cartridge the 308 is. Don't see any snipers carrying it in their M 40s. The only reason it exists is the limitations of the M16 platform. Put a pile of M-14s and M4s in front of a USMC platoon and see which would be gone and which would not!

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The 6.8 was never intended to be a sniper round.

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you got it montana marine. something to make an m-16 a bit more of a better killing machine. light and fast don't always cut it, but a bit more weight makes it better.


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My very point, if it cant kill a raghead at 800 yards, how can you expect it to be a reliable Elk cartridge at ANY range.

Further, why bother when there are 100s of better choices out there starting with a 30-30!

This thread is just getting stupid. No responsible hunter would espouse a cartridge with the ME of a 25 Remington for Elk.

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No way would I use a 6.8SPC on elk. IMO the bullets aren't fast or heavy enough to get you a clean kill on a elk past 125 yards or so.
The 6.8SPC should work well on deer out to 300 yards.

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Originally Posted by oldman1942
My very point, if it cant kill a raghead at 800 yards, how can you expect it to be a reliable Elk cartridge at ANY range.

Further, why bother when there are 100s of better choices out there starting with a 30-30!

This thread is just getting stupid. No responsible hunter would espouse a cartridge with the ME of a 25 Remington for Elk.


Well, there are a whole slew of useful elk chamberings not being fielded by military snipers. So I'm not really following you.

Are you suggesting that only military sniper chamberings are suitable for elk?

That position might cast a shadow on your 30-30, and a slew of other useful chamberings.

How about that charcoal burner you like to post pics of beside the elk. How much energy does that old warhorse generate? Is it an 800 yard rig?

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I just had a thought. The 6.8SPC in the AR15 platform is excellent for the southeastern folks that hunt deer with dogs.

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