Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles Light Recoil 130 gr Load for 30-06?

I'm taking a young man coyote hunting and would like to put together a nice light recoiling load for him to run. I have a bunch of 130 gr Interlocks and was thinking they'd be a good place to start.

I've had extraordinary accuracy (and relatively little recoil) w/ 60 gr of IMR-4350 and 125 gr TNTs so I'm starting there w/ the Interlocks. I've always had great luck accuracy-wise (even if not in the speed dept, which doesn't matter here) with high load densities & slow powders. I also am trying the book's start load of RL-15, 50 gr.

Wondering if anybody has suggestions?

Here are the powders I have to choose from:

4759
IMR-4320
RL-15
BLC-(2)
H-380
IMR-4350
RL-19
H-4831SC
RL-22

Thanks all,

efw

http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/Youth%20Loads.pdf

stay away from imr 4350/rl19 /rl22/h4831 or any slower powders for reduced loads. Too slow to cut down too much on. The ol' detonation problem you know.

Of the powders you have on hand, the 4759 is the only one that will give you significantly less recoil, as the powder charge is significantly lighter. The four factors that effect recoil the most are bullet weight, powder charge weight, bullet velocity, and rifle weight. Assume you are using the same rifle, so that factor doesn't change. Using a 125 gr will give you a lighter recoil than a 150, 165, 180. A 110 would be even better.

Powder charge and velocity can be selected to give the best velocity for the intended target at range with the lowest charge weight possible. Slow burning powders are not your friend here. You want something a little quicker. SR4759 is a good one. Another good one is Blue Dot and even AA5744 fairs pretty well.

Dogs ain't hard to kill, and meat damage is not an issue. Try a 110 with a light charge of a faster burning powder to give you something in the lower to mid 2K for speed. Bet you it will put the smack on those howlers just fine. Do a search for Blue Dot loads here. Lots of good info.

If 2,000 fps is good enough I would try 20 grs IMR 4759.
If you are going for the gusto 55 grs IMR 4831 will get you close to 2,900 fps.
whelennut

The Hornady manual has loads for the .30-06 and 130 grain bullets and IMR-4350 is included and BTW max in their book is 59 grains for 3,000 FPS

RL-15, and nine more powders are listed.

May I suggest that to get a kid started you're on the right track with light bullets so I'd recommend you try the 110 gr V-max at 3,000 FPS and above all get the youngster the best ear protection you can find. He'll be far more intimidated by the noise than the recoil......but recoil management is also excellent practice.

Very good gentlemen. You've all given me great info!

Vapodog- what edition of the Hornady guide did you get that from? Mine is older, but lists a max of 60.1 gr and 3100 fps... though definately not the reduction I'm looking for there. Mine doesn't list RL-15; only RL-12. What are the start/max loads for RL-15 in yours? I got the 50 gr start load from an old Rifle Shooter article on light bullets in the '06.

I went to that 60gr/IMR-4350 load because of my experience with the 125 gr TNT, but now I see that it isn't anywhere near "reduced".

I'm going to try the 4759 load you offered Whelennut; that looks like just the ticket!

Thanks again gentlemen,

efw

Nobody has ever accused the 300 Savage of being a hard kicker. I would look at the top end velocity of the 300 with whatever bullet you want and then try to come close to that with a starting load in the 30-06. Preferably with a mid range powder like the 4320 or Rl 15.


FWIW, I used Rl 7 and 150 gr bullets to simulate the 30-30 for my son when he started with his new 06. He is currently shooting 300 Sav equivalents made with H335 and 150 grainers.

Dale

Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 130, Hornady SP 3020
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch or 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch or 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-15

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 3.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-30.0 55 33.60 1841 978 14418 5250 70.7 1.738
-27.0 57 35.04 1912 1055 15629 5604 72.8 1.685
-24.0 59 36.48 1983 1136 16941 5963 74.9 1.634
-21.0 62 37.92 2056 1220 18365 6325 77.0 1.585
-18.0 64 39.36 2129 1308 19908 6689 79.0 1.538
-15.0 66 40.80 2203 1401 21579 7054 80.9 1.492
-12.0 69 42.24 2277 1496 23378 7417 82.8 1.448
-09.0 71 43.68 2351 1596 25286 7776 84.7 1.405
-06.0 73 45.12 2426 1699 27312 8131 86.4 1.363
-03.0 76 46.56 2501 1806 29491 8478 88.1 1.323
+00.0 78 48.00 2576 1915 31837 8818 89.7 1.284
+03.0 80 49.44 2651 2029 34362 9147 91.2 1.246
+06.0 83 50.88 2726 2145 37077 9464 92.6 1.209
+09.0 85 52.32 2801 2265 39997 9767 93.8 1.167
+12.0 87 53.76 2876 2387 43136 10055 95.0 1.125
+15.0 90 55.20 2950 2512 46512 10326 96.0 1.086

Results caused by � 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 78 48.00 2736 2160 37739 9245 96.0 1.200
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 78 48.00 2387 1645 26116 8051 80.5 1.381

Iraklion,

Thanks a lot for running those numbers; it looks like I was a couple grains over min. I'll back down to 48 gr and come back up to best accuracy.

Would you be willing to put up numbers on 4759 using the Hornady 110 and 130 gr Interlocks?

Thanks again!

I tried but not listed. The best I can do is try to extrapolate.

Here you go!


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Cool. Thanks again for what you did provide; I appreciate it very much!