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Cattle....probably not. Hogs perhaps. Thought we were talking blacktails????? I missed that one ![[Linked Image]](http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/northerndave/Decorated%20images/youbettarecognizebish-1.jpg)
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Dan,what's a Tubb final finish? Yes that's a warm load for an 06-180.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Bob, It's a fire lapping system utilizing abrasive coated bullets. Final Finish I used it back when I was brand new to reloading, but I didn't really wring the guns out properly before hand to know for sure how they shot pre-treatment. The two 700's I tried it on, a 30-06 and a 22-250, both hold 1/2 MOA with loads they like, so I doubt if it hurt much. Carl
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I just assumed Larry had whacked some butcher critters between the eyes with a 22lr.
Assuming Carl thought the same thing. 10-4 Sam
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FWIW:
Zinging the 130 TSX at 3220 is pretty wicked too . . . .
From barnes:
Bullet Weight: 130 gr
Case Trim Length: 2.005"
S.D. 0.196
Bullet Style: TSX BT
Primer: Federal 210
B.C. 0.340
COAL: 2.810"
Barrel Length: 24"
Case: Winchester Twist Rate: 1:12"
308 Winchester
Powder Charge Velocity Charge Velocity Load
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AA 2460 45.0 2957 51.0 3221 95
Varget 47.5 2946 52.0 3159 106
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Shane, just curious if you have tried 17 with 220s yet?
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I ran some loads with 200s in the 308 over RL17 recently.
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20.5" factory Rem varmint bbl (I had it cut from 26").
Mag length OAL 2.81"
200gr SGK, 2700 fps
200gr AB, moly'd, 2620 fps
Thanks for that info. I tried RL17 with 180s in the 308 and it proved to be too slow in my rifles. I thought it might do well with 200+ grain bullets. Any experience with the 208 A-Max as a hunting bullet? Thanks
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I see now....it was KC that made the leap. I haven't seen any evidence of PWC spewing BS so I'm sure he'll clarify. or not...
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Shane, just curious if you have tried 17 with 220s yet?
Ted No I haven't. I have some 220 Hornady RN, and 220 Matchkings on hand, so I might give it a whirl eventually. I would imagine 2500-ish fps is possible.
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I ran some loads with 200s in the 308 over RL17 recently.
Summary:
20.5" factory Rem varmint bbl (I had it cut from 26").
Mag length OAL 2.81"
200gr SGK, 2700 fps
200gr AB, moly'd, 2620 fps
...Any experience with the 208 A-Max as a hunting bullet?... No, but at 308Win velocities I suspect it would work fine.
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308Win - great deer cart.
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200 grain partition over 2500 fpsWas perusing the Nosler Website and found this data. Eye Popping! http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=15&b=30cal&s=307I gotta get a 200 partition going 2500. 308 Winchester
200gr Partition� & AccuBond�Primer: Federal 210M Ballistic Coefficient: PT (.481) AB (.588) Sectional Density: .301 * Most Accurate Load Tested Powder: IMR 3031Charge Weight Muzzle Velocity (fps) Load Density (in grains) 38.0* 2290 fps 82% 36.0 2180 fps 78% 34.0 2070 fps 74% Powder: W760Charge Weight Muzzle Velocity (fps) Load Density (in grains) 48.0 2571 fps 104%
46.0 2495 fps 100%44.0* 2414 fps 95% Powder: IMR4350Charge Weight Muzzle Velocity (fps) Load Density (in grains) 48.0 2460 fps 104% 46.0 2360 fps 100% 44.0* 2260 fps 95% BMT No problemo. Just load 'em in a 30-06!
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Shane is your .308 on a short or long action?
I have a M700 short action in .308 and I would think anything over a 168 grains might have trouble feeding from the mag. Of course, I could load one at a time.
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If you seat them all to 2.8" how will it know how much they weigh? 
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derby,
My 308 is a M700 short action. The 200s seated to mag length still make good speeds with RL17. 2600+, via 20.5" bbl.
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derby,
My 308 is a M700 short action. The 200s seated to mag length still make good speeds with RL17. 2600+, via 20.5" bbl. WOW! That's impressive. I have a 26" barrel. I'm still trying to decide .260 Remington or stay with the .308.
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I see now....it was KC that made the leap. I haven't seen any evidence of PWC spewing BS so I'm sure he'll clarify. or not... ![[Linked Image]](http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL152/10882229/22138481/377388677.jpg)
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Thanks. Put it in my ammo favorites.
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