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130 gr. for deer in a 270 is THEE combination. Load him up some with some Nosler Partitions and he will be happy with the performance.

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Ten years or so back I had some 130 CLs apparently "pencil" through on a whitetail. He fell over after the second shot but tried to get back up so tapped him a third time. That one, based on my sight picture, knocked out a fist sized hole on exit. Range was less than 75 yards.

Don't think it was velocity, think the bullets just didn't expand for whatever reason. Have shot deer and one antelope with a CL since and all showed usual exit holes...

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i have killed between 150-200 whitetails with the 270 and i like 140grn bullets way better than the 130grn. for me they just seem to drop them faster. with 130's they were running off with very good blood trails and dieing. with most shots wth 140's they go down right there on the spot.


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Grumulkin is indeed pulling your leg. Perhsps in an attempt to get people thinking?


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Originally Posted by atkinson
I'm thinking your friend is about two bricks shy of a load..I don't believe he has ever shot a deer, at least not with a .270.

I can't think of a better deer cartridge than the .270 or a better bullet for deer than the 130 gr...I have never seen a 130 gr. bullet fail to expand from a .270, I have seen some, or rare ocasions years ago, blow up because they were going too fast for a particular bullet.


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Sounds to me like you're trying to be a good guy and help him out. Also betting you're somewhat new to loading. Bottom line, I'd steer clear of this project and that goes for someone newish to loading and someone who's been doing it for eons.

There will be no pleasing this fella and may lead down a road to more trouble than you need.

Give it some thought ok...?

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Hey Dober, I must say you hit the nail right on the head! I try to avoid reloading for friends at all costs, for fear of what could happen. But also being somewhat new to the reloading, what better plac to ask for knowledge and oppinions. The other thing that scares me is the old proverb, "If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bull$^&#" who here is doing what?

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No doubt, I try to avoid it as well. Earlier on I was eager to please and eager to show what I could do with my Rockchucker. Not anymo, time is short, and for me it's just not worth the time.

And yes, this is a very good place to come to ask for thoughts, advice etc. Most will be good, but like your proverb there are more than a few that have way more book knowledge than actual experience. Challenge is to sort thru which is which...

Best of luck to ya!

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Did I miss something?? I don't load for a .270 but I thought the 150 was the top end for it???


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160 Nosler Partition is the heaviest from the mainstream makers that I know of. Might be some foreign or boutique makers that do heavier and I think Barnes used to make an orginal that was even heavier than that.


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Barnes used to make a 180 round-nose and Speer made a 170 round-nose, but both disappeared a while back. Neigther one worked as well as the 160 Partition for those who, for whatever reason, want a heavier .270 bullet.


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A 130 grain pill does just fine on mule deer and elk for my wife. Put it where it's supposed to go, and he'd do about the same shooting lug nuts or 165 grain boat tails. Don't know where you're located, but a 165 steals a good bit of the flat shooting performance that 270's are known for. I'd stay in the 130-140 range.


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Who's making the 165's for a .270 that you guys are talking about?

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Can you get anything besides a 130 for the 270. They are cornbread and iced tea. Good chit.

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Originally Posted by mathman
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in his thought process, the bullet is going too fast to have any expansion on the deer


He is wrong in his thought process.

yup.....dead wrong! The 130 grain bullet in the .270 Win is almost perfect for deer!

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To be honest when the guy first asked about switching he just threw out a size. The closest I could find in a boat tail was 150. But it does sound like there is a few other options.

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Your friend needs to read a few books. Expansion depends on jacket thickness and velocity and on whether or not you hit bone. Heavier bullets often have thicker jackets and travel slower so they expand even less. They are made for deep penetration on bigger animals like moose. It will always be a compromise between expansion and penetration.
He needs to practice more with his 130's!
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I have been useing a Pre-64 M70 in 270 Win. for over 45 years shooting nothing but 130 gr. bullets. The only animal I ever had run after being hit was a Blackbuck. I did finally recover him. In 1972 I loaded up some 270s with Win. cases, 130 gr. Hornadys with 60 grs. of H4831 and went to Ontario for a Black Bear hunt. I was in a boat fishing off shore when I saw a very large bear on the shore edge feeding. We stopped the boat and I took the shot from about 85 yards. When the bullet hit, the bear jumped straight up in the air, did a flip and landed in the lake. When I got to him he was dead in the water. 130 gr. 270s will kill most anything if you hit them right.

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hey guys,... I have a question.. I bought my first .270... a remington 700 ADL, and spent about a week test firing different types of ammo through it to test what it seemed to like. It seems to have a preference for winchester 150 grain power points. It is so accurate with the factory loads, it's almost boring,.... but that's a good thing. At 100 yards, off the bench, it holds 3 shot groups at less than a half inch. Does anybody have any information on replicating the factory load for winchester 150 grain power points? If so, can you help me out? thanks.


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I have no specific information on the factory load. I use 57 grs. of H4831SC with 150 gr. bullets. This has shot extremely well for me in more than one 270. As good as your rifle is shooting, it should work well for you. Good Luck and Merry Christmas.

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